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    No more EU polls today apparently. Youguv and Ipsos Mori release final polls tomorrow.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    No more EU polls today apparently. Youguv and Ipsos Mori release final polls tomorrow.
    At least no British Polling Council polls

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    Based on this old yougov fieldwork it should be a leave landslide, people likely lying back then
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    Gove said yesterday that John Barnes supported leave, today Barnes denied that and said he supports remain.

    Jus the latest lie from project fib.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    No more EU polls today apparently. Youguv and Ipsos Mori release final polls tomorrow.
    At least two #EUref polls due today:
    1630hrs: Opinium, online (prev. tie)
    2200hrs: ComRes, phone (prev. Remain +1)

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    Ooo, Comres.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Gove said yesterday that John Barnes supported leave, today Barnes denied that and said he supports remain.

    Jus the latest lie from project fib.
    As opposed to Cameron's whopper that Turkey won't be joining until the year 3000 - something which surprised a senior adviser to President Erdogan who thought that Cameron was one of Turkey's biggest supporters. Or what about the 13% of laws are made in Brussels, when the House of Commons library averages it at 59%?
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    As opposed to Cameron's whopper that Turkey won't be joining until the year 3000 - something which surprised a senior adviser to President Erdogan who thought that Cameron was one of Turkey's biggest supporters. Or what about the 13% of laws are made in Brussels, when the House of Commons library averages it at 59%?
    Or the claims by the pro remain papers what Warsi defected, or Khan's promise of positive argument last night that was broken quicker than his promise to have no fare rises.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Or the claims by the pro remain papers what Warsi defected, or Khan's promise of positive argument last night that was broken quicker than his promise to have no fare rises.

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    And what about Cameron's promise to do something about the free movement of people? Or how about Lord Sugar's casual xenophobia about Gisela Stuart?
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    And what about Cameron's promise to do something about the free movement of people? Or how about Lord Sugar's casual xenophobia about Gisela Stuart?
    Maybe Osborne's revenge budget threat?

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    (Original post by toronto353)
    As opposed to Cameron's whopper that Turkey won't be joining until the year 3000 - something which surprised a senior adviser to President Erdogan who thought that Cameron was one of Turkey's biggest supporters. Or what about the 13% of laws are made in Brussels, when the House of Commons library averages it at 59%?
    So typical. You can't defend your own side so you go on the attack.

    Cameron did not say they would not join until 3000- another lie by project fib.
    He said 'at the current rate that they're fulfilling the requirements' it will take until 3000. That's just a statistical fact.


    59% of our laws are not made by the EU. 13% are. That's from the House of Commone library.
    Yet another lie from project fib.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Or the claims by the pro remain papers what Warsi defected, or Khan's promise of positive argument last night that was broken quicker than his promise to have no fare rises.

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    Warsi initially favoured leave. She wrote an article supporting Brexit in the Yorkshire post.
    You've used that Khan joke twice now and it's still not funny. There are no fare rises and he was as positive as anyone else last night. Positive about what the EU gives us.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Warsi initially favoured leave. She wrote an article supporting Brexit in the Yorkshire post.
    You've used that Khan joke twice now and it's still not funny. There are no fare rises and he was as positive as anyone else last night. Positive about what the EU gives us.
    I hardly think the guardian can be accused of an anti labour bias

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...mayor-election

    As for the 13%, HoC library itself says 59%

    https://commonslibraryblog.com/2014/...s-from-europe/

    So much for them saying 13

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    (Original post by toronto353)
    As opposed to Cameron's whopper that Turkey won't be joining until the year 3000 - something which surprised a senior adviser to President Erdogan who thought that Cameron was one of Turkey's biggest supporters. Or what about the 13% of laws are made in Brussels, when the House of Commons library averages it at 59%?
    Neither of these is a lie. Turkey as-is won't be joining, because they need to fulfil the pre-requisites for new EU Member States (notably they fail by a substantial margin on their human rights record at the moment). If Turkey joins, it's because they've made sufficient changes to be essentially unrecognisable.

    Also, the raw % of a number of laws is completely and utterly meaningless, especially in the context of the EU. For a start, one can reasonably both include and exclude both Regulations and Directives in 'laws made in Brussels', since under UK law, those take effect only because of the actions of the Queen in Parliament. Secondly, 'counting laws' is at best extremely difficult and imprecise, and at worst utterly ridiculous (see here: http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/vie...3631-chapter-5).
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I hardly think the guardian can be accused of an anti labour bias

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...mayor-election

    As for the 13%, HoC library itself says 59%

    https://commonslibraryblog.com/2014/...s-from-europe/

    So much for them saying 13

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    Nowhere does the HoC say that.
    The total also excluded all our common laws which are not in statutory form such as murder.

    The real number if we take the common law into account will be far below even the 13% figure.
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    get rekt you vonc ****
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Or the claims by the pro remain papers what Warsi defected, or Khan's promise of positive argument last night that was broken quicker than his promise to have no fare rises.

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    Pro remain papers like the telegraph?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-protest-at-o/
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    So I just had a vote leave leaflet...

    I saw tha £350m a week. Turkey is imminently joining the EU and all 76 million of them are going to come to the UK!!! I was told that we can't control our borders...
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    in other conversation....


    get rekt you vonc ****
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Maybe Osborne's revenge budget threat?

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    I'm enjoying Juncker campaigning for Brexit. He said the following on further negotiations at a press conference today:

    'British voters have to know there will be no kind of any negotiation. We have concluded a deal with the prime minister. He got the maximum he could receive, and we gave the maximum we could give, so there will be no kind of renegotiation.'
 
 
 
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