Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    I'm surprised you lot are doing so badly with the quality you have in your team tbh.
    i swear to god...
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    https://vine.co/v/O1VewjbHBXV
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    I only read a few pages back, but I'm surprised nobody has blamed Balotelli yet, even though he didn't play.
    • Community Assistant
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    I'm sad to say but I turned the match off last night after Mignolet's howler and didn't check the score until the final whistle.

    Then, I watched the goals. Couldn't bare sitting through another dire performance - but by all accounts apparently we weren't that bad.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by UniMastermindBOSS)
    I only read a few pages back, but I'm surprised nobody has blamed Balotelli yet, even though he didn't play.
    We wouldn't have even scored at all if he was playing hence would've lost. Lambert looks much better.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by dada55)
    Are all the media reporters stupid or I am missing something. As long as Real Madrid beat Basel, whether Liverpool drew or won against Ludogorets makes absolutely no difference in terms of continuing with champions league. If Liverpool had won, they would have still needed to win against Basel, as a draw would put them on the same points as Basel but Basel would go through as they won against Liverpool at home. So why are all medias saying things like "Blow to Liverpool's chances blah blah blah"

    I am Bulgarian so supported Ludogorets and they played really well today, give or take a few fatal mistakes. The advantage of being at home is clear but for a team like Liverpool, they really shouldn't allow to pretty much get outplayed in 2 games like that. Ok they won the first game, but that was the biggest gift ever with a totally un-needed penalty at injury time.

    Unless something changes and quick. I'm sure Basel will win and go through. It might be, that the penalty from the first game against Ludogorets ensure that Liverpool don't come last in the group, which is just unbelievable really.
    Its funny because Liverpool and Ludo were gifting each other goals over the two games, for Ludo its fine but for Liverpool it's a disgrace. I feel Liverpool did enough to win the game as Ludo didn't look like scoring in the second half up until Liverpool decided to sit back and invite pressure that inevitably lead to the goal. Liverpool weren't even that bad tbh, if Sterling scored his goal than no one would be complaining.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    Sterlings finishing is atrocious there's no power and the placement of his shots are terrible.

    He's still a good player but was completely overhyped last season when the success was clearly down to two players. Gerrard, Henderson and Sterling get hyped up by the media along with SAS because they're nationalist and want the England players to look good, same with John Flanagan.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    Sterlings finishing is atrocious there's no power and the placement of his shots are terrible.

    He's still a good player but was completely overhyped last season when the success was clearly down to two players.
    His finishing and final pass is all that is missing, he is still young though and has loads of potential and time to improve.
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    Sterlings finishing is atrocious there's no power and the placement of his shots are terrible.

    He's still a good player but was completely overhyped last season when the success was clearly down to two players. Gerrard, Henderson and Sterling get hyped up by the media along with SAS because they're nationalist and want the England players to look good, same with John Flanagan.
    No he's the best young player in the world and will hit 20+ goals this season.

    Who was it that said he was on par with hazard
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by baconbutty)
    No he's the best young player in the world and will hit 20+ goals this season.

    Who was it that said he was on par with hazard
    SUG. Guy ain't serious.
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    SUG. Guy ain't serious.
    Think the guy was very serious
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by AR_95)
    Think the guy was very serious
    Sterlings is as good as Hazard. I loled at that hard.
    • TSR Support Team
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    (Original post by jam277)
    He's still a good player but was completely overhyped last season when the success was clearly down to two players. Gerrard, Henderson and Sterling get hyped up by the media along with SAS because they're nationalist and want the England players to look good, same with every average English player for the past 2 decades.
    Fixed that for you. I remember Cleverley being compared to Fabregas ffs.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by samir12)
    Its funny because Liverpool and Ludo were gifting each other goals over the two games, for Ludo its fine but for Liverpool it's a disgrace. I feel Liverpool did enough to win the game as Ludo didn't look like scoring in the second half up until Liverpool decided to sit back and invite pressure that inevitably lead to the goal. Liverpool weren't even that bad tbh, if Sterling scored his goal than no one would be complaining.
    Well I know that stats aren't everything and final result is all that matters but if you look at the stats for yesterday's game, it show that Liverpool didn't really do much all game. They should have tried harder to score a 3rd in my opinion. Obviously with the score in Basel, its somewhat makes sense to reduce risk as a draw is almost as a good as win in this scenario but given the opponent, I think its just silly.Liverpool does look dangerous when the game goes their way but it hardly ever does this season.
    There is obviously the pressure of expectation when playing against weaker teams and I guess what makes Ludogorets slightly different is that the team plays well together rather than individual talent. Having watched many of their games, sometimes the passing is pretty much amazing but very often there are stupid mistakes which makes their game very inconsistent and leads to goal gifts.

    It is nearing Christmas after all, maybe they are in a good spirits...
    • Community Assistant
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    Sterling is obviously not reaching the heights of last season, but his ball to Henderson last night was a reminder of what he can do.

    He IS still young - and nowhere near the heights people were spouting about him earlier this summer - but he needs to be kept from fatigue. Walcott is so injury prone, and we can't afford Sterling to become that. He's still so young and he's a vital player for us - too vital, I'd suggest. He plays every single game for us and it'll be his undoing.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    Sterlings finishing is atrocious there's no power and the placement of his shots are terrible.

    He's still a good player but was completely overhyped last season when the success was clearly down to two players. Gerrard, Henderson and Sterling get hyped up by the media along with SAS because they're nationalist and want the England players to look good, same with John Flanagan.
    I like Flanagan :sad: I like Clyne more though. Disgrace it took them so long to call him up for England.


    (Original post by jam277)
    Sterlings is as good as Hazard. I loled at that hard.
    Di Maria is a far better comparison with Hazard. Former works harder, latter is arguably naturally more talented.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    Tbh I don't get why people say Hazard doesn't work hard.

    (Original post by samba)
    I like Flanagan :sad: I like Clyne more though. Disgrace it took them so long to call him up for England.




    Di Maria is a far better comparison with Hazard. Former works harder, latter is arguably naturally more talented.
    Flanagan is ok. Decent defensively at LB last season as he didn't have as much instructions to go forward.

    Hazard generally works his ass off and bar for one mistake he made against Atlético Madrid people wouldn't really say he doesn't track back much. When we need him working he will work his ass off. Ronaldo e.g. works his ass off but doesn't offer much defensively.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by sr90)
    Fixed that for you. I remember Cleverley being compared to Fabregas ffs.
    Don't forget Scholes and Zidane.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by dada55)
    Well I know that stats aren't everything and final result is all that matters but if you look at the stats for yesterday's game, it show that Liverpool didn't really do much all game. They should have tried harder to score a 3rd in my opinion. Obviously with the score in Basel, its somewhat makes sense to reduce risk as a draw is almost as a good as win in this scenario but given the opponent, I think its just silly.Liverpool does look dangerous when the game goes their way but it hardly ever does this season.
    There is obviously the pressure of expectation when playing against weaker teams and I guess what makes Ludogorets slightly different is that the team plays well together rather than individual talent. Having watched many of their games, sometimes the passing is pretty much amazing but very often there are stupid mistakes which makes their game very inconsistent and leads to goal gifts.

    It is nearing Christmas after all, maybe they are in a good spirits...
    Rodgers wanted to have a more defensive approach to this game so I see why we didn't go for the third, Gerrard and Lambert were knackered and Sterling was struggling and had a knock so he went defensive. It doesn't matter really as we always concede. We attack and we concede, we sit back and defend and we still concede. Defence is an absolute joke.
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Mackay)
    Sterling is obviously not reaching the heights of last season, but his ball to Henderson last night was a reminder of what he can do.

    He IS still young - and nowhere near the heights people were spouting about him earlier this summer - but he needs to be kept from fatigue. Walcott is so injury prone, and we can't afford Sterling to become that. He's still so young and he's a vital player for us - too vital, I'd suggest. He plays every single game for us and it'll be his undoing.
    He really isn't. He got a terrible injury last season from a tackle vs Spurs, but that can happen to any player. Prior to that he was very rarely injured and had played 40+ games on average in his prior 3 seasons(before that wasnt 1st team). Maybe he'll be injury prone now of course, but we'll have to wait and see.

    Sterling is better now than Walcott was at the same age, although Walcott later developed a very strong goal-scoring ability(esp in big games) and it remains to be seen if Sterling will produce the same raw stats, even if he has more talent. Walcott took a long time to get to the point of being a consistent scorer/provider though, very few young players are consistent like that.

    But Sterling is having a poor season though, AOC has probably overtaken him tbh.
 
 
 
Reply
Submit reply
TSR Support Team

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 Support Team members looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

This forum is supported by:
Updated: February 4, 2015
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Has a teacher ever helped you cheat?
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Write a reply...
    Reply
    Hide
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.