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Oh, but the political ideology text book at sixth form said that?
Oh and yeah, premium bonds didn't end in the 80s then get resurrected.

Hell there are still war bonds out their...
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Oh and yeah, premium bonds didn't end in the 80s then get resurrected.

Hell there are still war bonds out their...
Well Politics text book was a mong. I'm slightly disappointed now.
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Well Politics text book was a mong. I'm slightly disappointed now.
No problem, just think before you regurgitate next time

It might have meant something else.
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No problem, just think before you regurgitate next time

It might have meant something else.
Well I read it like last year, wrote it in the mock, got the marks. Really I didn't regurgitate, just actually thought it was right.
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Thatcher was a genius. It must have been the last time and possibly one of the first times in a very, very long time that there was exactly £0 of public debt. A Balance of Payments surplus and relatively decent living conditions. There of course was a huge difference in wealth distrubution. But it is almost the same now, we will never have all perfect living conditions.
Nonsense.
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Thatcher was in power from 1979 to 1990. Apart from a very small reduction at the beginning of her time in office, I don't notice any change.
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Your only reason for supporting a market based economy is cheaper goods
There are so many reasons, that is just one.
Since when did YouGov poll from less than 20,000 people represent the entire view of a nation?
It's a poll. It doesn't ask every single member of the population. They seek to gain a representative figure. I.e. this 20,000 figure would be representative of Britain. - That is what polls aim to do.
Being commissioned by the Telegraph,which is a notoriously apologist paper for Thatcher,it is just representative of Telegraph readers and those who share the same view,not the general population.
So just because something was commissioned for the Telegraph it automatically means it will merely side with the Telegraph... what rubbish.

She was also third on the 'Worst Briton' poll,not that it proves anything more than the 'Great Briton' poll what each may constitute and what the entire population feel.
It was less serious though :P

Of course opinion is polarised,you either benefited from her policies,being placed higher in the means of production,or you didn't,and exploitation was sustained and worsened
Where would you place a working class family who would willing work in chicken slaughter factories to sustain a living? Pro or anti Thatcher?
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It's a poll. It doesn't ask every single member of the population. They seek to gain a representative figure. I.e. this 20,000 figure would be representative of Britain. - That is what polls aim to do.

So just because something was commissioned for the Telegraph it automatically means it will merely side with the Telegraph... what rubbish.

It was less serious though :P

Where would you place a working class family who would willing work in chicken slaughter factories to sustain a living? Pro or anti Thatcher?
Its only representative of those who took it,it would be pointless to assume it is representative of an entire population. Thats the whole problem with the reliability of poll's,so I don't think it can be used to prove right an assertion,or prove wrong.

Well thats the same criticism a Conservative would place against a poll which would place a Socialist Worker poll saying Clement Atlee was the most successful PM we have had.
The context of any source is central to its reliability,and its not exactly surprising a right leaning paper which is a supporter of Thatcher would have a poll geared to have the end results of its own ideology.

Yeah granted it was less serious,but 16th in a Great Briton poll doesn't really mean much.

Its not so much the willingness of a family to do a particular type of job under Thatcher,it is more the socio-economic environment in which such a job is the only thing possible. Workers in Bangladesh are willing to work in sweatshops,does that make them pro-capitalism? No it means the socio-economic situation dictates the only type of work available is that.
Willingness means nothing,Thatcher created the environment which wrecked the employment opportunities of an entire generation,broke up communities which still feel the effect today,and cemented the neo-liberal economic institutions which haven't just destroyed social mobility,but made a bigger gap between the rich and poor,but also the instability and wrecklessness which caused the Credit Crunch.
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Its only representative of those who took it,it would be pointless to assume it is representative of an entire population. Thats the whole problem with the reliability of poll's,so I don't think it can be used to prove right an assertion,or prove wrong.
As I said, it seeks to be representative. Being representative of an entire population is impossible, hence why I used the word "seek".

Well thats the same criticism a Conservative would place against a poll which would place a Socialist Worker poll saying Clement Atlee was the most successful PM we have had.
Was it conducted by an independent research firm or by a Socialist Workers Union? That changes it slightly in that I would be more willing to look at it if it were independent.

Its not so much the willingness of a family to do a particular type of job under Thatcher,it is more the socio-economic environment in which such a job is the only thing possible.
The reason I mentioned the example was because your argument to me seems to be based around socio-economics. Now of course I may be wrong, so correct me if I am, but that is the feeling I am getting from your argument.

The example was given to test it. The example in particular, the working class family where the father worked in a chicken slaughter factory for some time are staunch Thatcher supporters.

cemented the neo-liberal economic institutions which haven't just destroyed social mobility,but made a bigger gap between the rich and poor,but also the instability and wrecklessness which caused the Credit Crunch
and yet social mobility and the gap between rich and poor is worse under a Labour Government?
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