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      (Original post by Seble)
      your wrong about the pin hack they put an update on couple of weeks ago so you can't access peoples contacts through the pin hack.
      Pah what rubbish where is the source for that update then...:mad:
      oh and there are alot more hacks just than the pin one but were not allowed to post them here
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      (Original post by blueray)
      Pah what rubbish where is the source for that update then...:mad:
      oh and there are alot more hacks just than the pin one but were not allowed to post them here
      You're officially talking out of your backside.

      You ask for sources yet give none. I also have a feeling that you believe "hacking" to be taking control of the device externally, whereas the only "hacks" for the iPhone mean you actually have to have access to the device, and even then all it did was allow you to bypass the pin code, which most people don't even set.

      And again, as already mentioned, it's been fixed!
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        dont know what people you've met but they all put pins on their phones. Once again ill ask for the source and its you that is getting mad not I see thats the problem with iphone 4 users they get mad over nothing ... can't control their emotions
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        (Original post by blueray)
        dont know what people you've met but they all put pins on their phones. Once again ill ask for the source and its you that is getting mad not I see thats the problem with iphone 4 users they get mad over nothing ... can't control their emotions
        Just find it funny how you're so upset that you don't have an iPhone.
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          (Original post by StuAndMma)
          Just find it funny how you're so upset that you don't have an iPhone.
          Dont know where you got that assumption but my brother has one... thus the quote of me having both phones in my hand
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          No phone is secure blueray. There was stuff published a few months ago saying that android is a lot more prone to spyware, and a lot of Android apps pass back personal data to the developer without tell you so. Not saying the iPhone is any better, but android isn't perfect either.

          (Original post by blueray)
          Android also offers full multitasking unlike Apple
          I'd argue that Apples multitasking is better.
          Means that the battery isn't drained as quickly.
          The only problem I have atm is the lack of multitasking support for IM apps and for video apps. Everything else you could ever want to do with multitasking, you can do with iOS.

          (Original post by yoyo462001)
          That's because their phones just work and the people that go to these 'genuis bars' are retards.

          Apple customer: I can't get email to work
          Genius: What's your email provider
          Apple customer: Email
          Genius: That'll be £150 incl VAT.
          On the other hand, I don't know any other shop / manufacturer that will replace a damaged phone for £150. Other places will generally charge you a lot more if the damage is your own fault or refuse to touch the phone.
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          (Original post by WelshBluebird)
          No phone is secure blueray. There was stuff published a few months ago saying that android is a lot more prone to spyware, and a lot of Android apps pass back personal data to the developer without tell you so. Not saying the iPhone is any better, but android isn't perfect either.



          I'd argue that Apples multitasking is better.
          Means that the battery isn't drained as quickly.
          The only problem I have atm is the lack of multitasking support for IM apps and for video apps. Everything else you could ever want to do with multitasking, you can do with iOS.



          On the other hand, I don't know any other shop / manufacturer that will replace a damaged phone for £150. Other places will generally charge you a lot more if the damage is your own fault or refuse to touch the phone.
          As far as I'm aware the apple guys only replace your phone if it's not your fault. Correct me if I'm wrong though. This seems a lot like a warranty to me. Whilst it would be nice to have HTC genius guys, I wouldn't say this service would sway me into getting a phone.
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          (Original post by yoyo462001)
          As far as I'm aware the apple guys only replace your phone if it's not your fault. Correct me if I'm wrong though. This seems a lot like a warranty to me. Whilst it would be nice to have HTC genius guys, I wouldn't say this service would sway me into getting a phone.
          You are wrong.
          Apple has even replaced cracked phones for free in the first few weeks of the iPhone 4 launch. Most of the time they charge £150 though.
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          (Original post by WelshBluebird)
          You are wrong.
          Apple has even replaced cracked phones for free in the first few weeks of the iPhone 4 launch. Most of the time they charge £150 though.
          So it's Apple's policy to replace phones that were damaged by customers?
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          (Original post by yoyo462001)
          So it's Apple's policy to replace phones that were damaged by customers?
          Thats the beauty of the genius bar. Sometimes they will do things they technically shouldn't (like giving you free repairs / replacements).
          Most of the time they charge the out of warranty service fee though (£150).

          http://www.apple.com/uk/support/ipho...faq/#warranty4
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          For those of you saying Samsung copied Apple, get your facts straight.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone#...ctual_property
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)

          All the smart phones produced in the past few years have been copying LG's design.
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          (Original post by Moonkin)
          Why would Samsung make a beastly phone and not put Flash light on it?

          Why would Apple make a beastly phone and not put Flash on it?
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            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)
            Apple copied the LG comany phone so just stop...and recheck where you get your information from

            Its called developing an idea its what all companies do like Samsung

            ps no one can deny that apple rips people off galaxy s is half the price, more good looking, more everything but just cheaper...
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            Having had both the iphone 3GS, the iphone 4, and now the Galaxy S, I would say the Galaxy S is much much better in terms of both hardware and operating system. Both have a very similar one touch interface, and the iphone4 is basically just the app-drawer on the galaxy s.

            I dont think I could ever go back to iphone. With android my user experience is so much better.. I manage to acheive the things I want much quicker and easier, with access to all the things I use my phone most commonly for, all available quicker, through the use of multiple home screens and widgets.

            Other than texting and browsing (two things android does better and faster than my iphone4) I also use my phone most commonly to check the latest news, to check the latest football scores, to check the current most popular youtube clips, to check my friends latest status updates, to check my friends latest twitter updates, to check the latest weather, to check the latest technology news. On my Samsung Galaxy S, I am able to check all those things instantly within 10 seconds, as all that information is available live and most up tp date on my home screens as widgets. To do the same thing on my iphone I would have to launch and close 10 apps or so, and wait for each of those apps to fetch the required data over wifi. The same expereince took around 8 minutes or so. Due to there being such a barrier to doing such tasks I found that I did it less often, using my phone less.

            On top of this, I use my phone quite a lot for social networking, such as facebook, myspace, twitter, flickr etc. All these accounts are deeply integrated natively into android making things so much easier and much more intuitive and easier to acces and do the things I want. The iphone way seems so cumbersome, slow, and old fashioned.

            On top of this.. because things are just easier on my android, with less barriers to the things I want to do, i find myself doing multiple things all the time, similar to a pc. This is made such a breeze with the far superior notification system within android. On my iphone a message pops up forcing you to stop what you are doing and deal with that message, or dismiss it only for the notification to be forgotten, where u are never prompted again.

            On top of this.. having a phone that is natively integrated with google, allowing my contacts, calendars, emails, livedocs, contact photos, etc to be seamlessly integrated and push-synced constantly is great. I had to be pay the annual fee for MobileMe for similar functionality on my iphone.

            I find android just more feature rich, like being able to pick my phone up and speak "navigate to KFC". my phone will decipher what I said, load up the free google sat nav, and start directing me to my nerest KFC from my current location. All within a few seconds. Its being able to sync my music, playlists, and podcasts with iTunes wirelessly without having to plug my phone into the itunes software just to do anything.

            the iphone4 doesnt have removable flashdisk cards or a micro USB port

            the iphone4 has a significantly smaller screen, despite the phone being a similar size

            the iphone4 lacks the more visually wonderful super-amoled screen for the wow factor

            the iphone4 has a poorer viewing angle

            the iphone4 has a slower browser, and is slower at loading pages

            the iphone4 is slower at loading apps, with a fractionally slower interface

            the iphone4 lacks the more sophisticated multitasking of the Galaxy S

            the iphone4 has a slower processor, and a slowr graphics core (GPU) (the Galaxy S has the fastest of any phone in the world currently)

            the iphone4 lacks flash when browsing websites

            the iphone4 has a lower quality front facing camera,

            the iphone4 can not play in widescreen without the letterbox. (the Galaxy S screen is 16:9 widescreen)

            the iphone4 has less free apps available in its app store

            the iphone4 lacks support of divx, xVid, HD divx, avi, wmc, vc-1, mkv, flv etc, meaning you have to convert movies on your pc before playing them

            the iphone4 lacks wireless dlna HDMI out and hence cannot output HD content to a TV

            the iphone4 lacks bluetooth 3.0 support

            the iphone4 lacks ability to play HQ youtube over 3G, unlike android

            the iphone4 lacks live multitasking widgets on the homescreens such as twitter, facebook status updates, sky news tickers, live world cup scores etc

            the iphone4 lacks i-tunes wireless syncing of music, podcasts, and playlists (yes, android can do this!)

            the iphone4 lacks the ability to be a wifi hotspot (phone becomes a 3G wireless router)

            the iphone4 lacks the advanced and seamless cloud syncing of android

            the iphone4 lacks the over-the-air updates of android

            the iphone4 lacks free emulator apps that run all games from gameboy, snes, PSP etc brilliantly

            the iphone4 lacks free google sat nav with voice and cloud search (eg speak "navigate to MacDonalds" and within 3 seconds ur phone has interpreted what you said, loaded up the sat nav, fetched GPS, and is giving u directions)

            the iphone4 still lacks the seamless and advanced social networking integration of android

            the iphone4 still lacks the superior notification system of android (no inturrupting popups on android)

            the iphone4 lacks the massive customisibility of android that allows ones phone to reflect ones needs and lifestyle, from homescreens, down to apps that give you a different keyboard or messeging app

            the iphone4 lacks free HD porn apps or free music apps that allow you to download or stream all the latest top40 music songs free!

            the iphone4 lacks a built in FM radio

            the iphone4 lacks native push email that both the blackberry and android have

            the iphone4 lacks text-reflow in the browser meaning you have to continuously pan left to right to read a page as it doesnt re align the text to fit the screen width.

            the iphone4 lacks the facebook integration of my galaxy s which automatically links people's photos to their name in your contact address book, integrating their facebook gallery, and even showing their latest status update next to their photo when they call you

            the iphone4 lacks the exclusivity of the galaxy S - the iphone is the common and simple mans phone, everyone has one

            the iphone4, despite being considered better build quality, is actually significantly more weaker and more prone to cracking and breaking, as numerous youtube video drop test comparisons have shown











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            (Original post by markuk99)
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            What about the Lag and GPS issues. Whenever I go onto XDA dev forum into the galaxy S section there is an fair amount of GS owners who just think Samsung suck in the software department, with the way they've handled the GS and generally that the drawbacks just isn't worth the hassle. Theoretically the GS should be a beast but it's limiting factor seems to be Samsung.

            I think this is the reason why I'm haven't gotten a GS.
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            you just plug ya phone into your laptop and load up samsung kies and let it update your phone to the official Froyo 2.2. Then, you just apply the one click root and lag fix.

            that said, the Nexus S will be out in the UK from Dec 18th, which is essentially an optimised galaxy s, and will be the fastest android phone out, given that it will be stock Gingerbread 2.3 with a JIT kernal optimised specifically for the hummingbird processor, and none of the lag issues associated with using samsungs own file system.

            and really, nearly all of what i mentioned above regarding the benefits of the galaxy s compared to the iphone4 also apply to flagship android phones in general, such as the htc desire hd too.
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            (Original post by yoyo462001)
            What about the Lag and GPS issues. Whenever I go onto XDA dev forum into the galaxy S section there is an fair amount of GS owners who just think Samsung suck in the software department, with the way they've handled the GS and generally that the drawbacks just isn't worth the hassle. Theoretically the GS should be a beast but it's limiting factor seems to be Samsung.

            I think this is the reason why I'm haven't gotten a GS.
            This is something which i wonder with xda, because my GS never suffered from these issues, perhaps the odd time a bit of a delay getting a lock but nothing Horrific.

            Rather if you spend any time on xda you find everyone *****es about the phones!

            As for lag I never really notice much but then i dont use touchwiz so cant really comment
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            For entertainment/apps, iphone. Everything else probably the S.
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            Yea, I never had any gps issues either. If anything, the sat nav runs better and smoother with less delay compared to my HTC desire, probably due to the more powerful processor and graphics chip.
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            I did a few 20 + mile cycles with it and it tracked nearly perfectly only blip being heavily forested areas
           
           
           
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