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    (Original post by d123)
    If he wants to be friends, fine. I like having male friends. But if a guy tries to flirt with me when I've told him that, it's just rude and objectifying. The thing is, if you just talk to a girl nicely and be a decent person, she won't have to make up a lie like that. It's the ***** who hit on girls in club and act like they are just sex objects who get that treatment.
    Exactly... but then again agreeing with a girl probably makes me a pathetic beta male. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Neil_K)
    Read my earlier replies to this thread where I listed at least HALF A DOZEN things that the line 'I've got a boyfriend' can mean.

    Read my replies to 'd123' above about my own experiences with women who have said 'I've got a boyfriend', who I managed to break down.

    Once you've read these things THOROUGHLY, then get back to me with specific comments on each one.



    Obviously it hurts you to have the truth behind the line 'I've got a boyfriend' revealed by a guy like me, or you wouldn't be getting so theatrical and defensive....

    Women don't want men to know that the line 'I've got a boyfriend' isn't always true, and when a guy like me comes along and reveals the TRUTH, they get defensive.
    What it "can" mean...so you're speculating, basically. Perhaps you should get back to me when you've got some actual facts, instead of spouting rubbish just because its what you want to believe.

    Also, why would I be "hurt" about this so-called "truth?" Makes me laugh to be honest. I've never lied about having a boyfriend, and there are plenty of other more effective ways of "testing" a guy's interest if I wanted to. Not that I ever have. Girls who lie about having a boyfriend are probably trying to get rid of you, in my experience from observing other people, so whats the point in persevering? Sounds like stupid game playing to me. Though by the sounds of it, that's exactly the level that you would love to stoop to. Life isn't about "breaking girls down" either. Women aren't toys to be knocked over the head until they give you what you want. Sounds like you have no respect for other people when it comes to your own whims.
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    (Original post by Neil_K)
    Jelephant is ... et cetera
    You're just proving my point. No self respecting girl would touch someone as nasty and pathetic like you with a barge pole. That's most probably why so many girls tell you they have a boyfriend whereas other guys in this thread apparently don't have that problem- maybe try working on your technique a little there Romeo, "creepy stalker" is out of fashion
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    (Original post by d123)
    No it won't. Any women who's intrigued by an idiot like that is just a bit odd to be honest.
    I beg to differ.

    (Original post by d123)
    I really wouldn't advise any other guys reading this to take any notice of this.
    Of course you wouldn't, because you don't want men to know the TRUTH behind the line 'I've got a boyfriend'. Women don't like it when the truth behind their games are revealed, because it takes away their manipulative power. Admit it.

    (Original post by d123)
    You might get lucky very occasionally, but generally, you'll just make the girl feel uncomfortable.
    I beg to differ, and my own experiences tell me otherwise.

    (Original post by d123)
    Also, girls aren't just there to be hit on, or 'broken down'.
    Never said they were. But if I suspect a girl is lying to me/trying to play games with me etc, then you can bet your right arm that I WILL break her down and get her to admit the truth. I can detect bull**** from people INSTANTLY, including women, and can break it down no problem.

    (Original post by d123)
    The way you speak about women is incredibly misogynistic really.
    I base ALL my relationships on 3 things....HONESTY, TRUST and RESPECT. I say that in most of the threads I post on this site.

    I like and respect women who believe in those 3 things. I DISLIKE games, lies, manipulation, dishonesty, phony/fake behaviour, disrespect, and general bull**** from women.

    (Original post by d123)
    You don't sound clued up about women at all -
    Riiiiightt.

    (Original post by d123)
    how many of these girls who have supposedly fallen for your tactics have actually turned into relationships?
    I lost count years ago. And I don't use 'tactics'....I pride myself on TRUTH and straightforward honesty.
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    (Original post by Jelephant)
    You're just proving my point. No self respecting girl would touch someone as nasty and pathetic like you with a barge pole. That's most probably why so many girls tell you they have a boyfriend whereas other guys in this thread apparently don't have that problem- maybe try working on your technique a little there Romeo, "creepy stalker" is out of fashion
    :rofl:

    Perhaps Neil_K should create a poll to see how many girls have lied about having a boyfriend. Or.... to see how many guys have had success with a girl who orginally claimed to have a boyfriend.

    I for one would be interested to see the results after all his obnoxious claims. He makes himself out to be some Brad Pitt when I bet he's a weedy little chap in reality.
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    (Original post by Neil_K)
    I beg to differ.



    Of course you wouldn't, because you don't want men to know the TRUTH behind the line 'I've got a boyfriend'. Women don't like it when the truth behind their games are revealed, because it takes away their manipulative power. Admit it.
    I won't admit it, because it's not true, at least not in my case or for the majority of my friends. Girls shouldn't be manipulative, and the majority honestly aren't. There will always be girls who are, but it's offensive to generalise like that. The truth behind that line for the majority of people is either that they really do have a boyfriend, or that they aren't interested but don't want to be a ***** and say so. It's not a game, there's no truth to be revealed and it isn't manipulative.



    (Original post by Neil_K)

    I beg to differ, and my own experiences tell me otherwise.



    Never said they were. But if I suspect a girl is lying to me/trying to play games with me etc, then you can bet your right arm that I WILL break her down and get her to admit the truth. I can detect bull**** from people INSTANTLY, including women, and can break it down no problem.

    Don't you see how wrong your attitude is? Maybe it's just the way you're phrasing it though.


    (Original post by Neil_K)

    I base ALL my relationships on 3 things....HONESTY, TRUST and RESPECT. I say that in most of the threads I post on this site.

    You really don't sound like you do - it's hardly respectful of a girl to 'break her down'.

    (Original post by Neil_K)
    I like and respect women who believe in those 3 things. I DISLIKE games, lies, manipulation, dishonesty, phony/fake behaviour, disrespect, and general bull**** from women.

    What about you being respectful towards her?
    (Original post by Neil_K)

    Riiiiightt.



    I lost count years ago.
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    (Original post by sophisticated)
    What it "can" mean...so you're speculating, basically. Perhaps you should get back to me when you've got some actual facts, instead of spouting rubbish just because its what you want to believe.
    I'm not speculating, I am talking from ACTUAL REAL WORLD experience. You cannot argue with ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. Read the reply I put to 'd123' above regarding my own experiences with girls who initially 'said they had a boyfriend'.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Also, why would I be "hurt" about this so-called "truth?" Makes me laugh to be honest. I've never lied about having a boyfriend, and there are plenty of other more effective ways of "testing" a guy's interest if I wanted to. Not that I ever have.
    Just because YOU have never lied about having a boyfriend doesn't mean other women don't.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Girls who lie about having a boyfriend are probably trying to get rid of you, in my experience from observing other people, so whats the point in persevering?
    Here's the thing that makes your argument shaky....you talk 'from your experience of OBSERVING people'.

    I talk from my ACTUAL experience of approaching and interacting with women who have told me 'I've got a boyfriend'.

    How many women have you approached in your life? (I'm guessing none because I assume you are straight). Well then, you are not qualified to comment on this....

    Whose experience is going to be more valid...that of someone who has ACTUALLY approached a lot of women...or that of someone who has simply OBSERVED people?

    I rest my case.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Sounds like stupid game playing to me. Though by the sounds of it, that's exactly the level that you would love to stoop to.
    I don't play games with women, or anyone. I live my life by a code of honour and base my relationships on 3 things: HONESTY, TRUST & RESPECT.

    If a woman tells me she has a boyfriend when it isn't really true, SHE is the one playing games, not me.

    I pride myself on TRUTH and being REAL with people....and I expect the same in return from people, including women. Which is why if I suspect a girl is lying to me about 'having a boyfriend' (or anything else), then I will get her to reveal the truth to me by breaking her down.

    It would only be 'playing games' if I was dishonest with women, which I'm not. So this point is invalid.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Life isn't about "breaking girls down" either.
    I never said 'life is about breaking girls down'. Where did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Women aren't toys to be knocked over the head until they give you what you want.
    I never said they were. Again, please stop putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. Stick to the topic please.
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    (Original post by d123)
    If he wants to be friends, fine. I like having male friends. But if a guy tries to flirt with me when I've told him that, it's just rude and objectifying. The thing is, if you just talk to a girl nicely and be a decent person, she won't have to make up a lie like that. It's the ***** who hit on girls in club and act like they are just sex objects who get that treatment.

    I sympathise with the OP's problem - I'm a single girl and it seems like most guys have girlfriends, but I'm just annoyed at Neil_K's attitude to women that he's displayed in this thread.
    Ah :P Calm down

    Well yeah, I know hundreds of guys who just want girls as their sex objects, I've never really been into that kind of stuff
    But you have to admitt that you'd give a nice, pleasant guy a chance, instead of a guy who just hits on you :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Tomac)
    Ah :P Calm down

    Well yeah, I know hundreds of guys who just want girls as their sex objects, I've never really been into that kind of stuff
    But you have to admitt that you'd give a nice, pleasant guy a chance, instead of a guy who just hits on you :rolleyes:

    Of course I would, but I wouldn't tell a nice guy that I had a boyfriend if I didn't.
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    There's little worse than some t*sser who won't take no for an answer. I have in the past told persistent wierdos in clubs that I'm either taken or married - it's polite, to the point, and is the clearest "I'm not interested" there is whilst maintaining dignity and politeness. One in particular just wouldn't listen (much, I suspect, like you Neil_K) and physically grabbed me by the wrist and wouldn't let go. He's lucky I didn't punch his creepy F***ing lights out. It's horrible, harrassing behaviour - a woman blatantly rejects your advances yet you refuse to "take it at face value" (Seriously, WTF!?), assume she's lying and persist!? Who do you think you are!? I suppose a police injunction would be her "seeing how far you'll go" for her too, would it? There is something mentally wrong with you, and men like you are a threat and menace to society. I dread coming across people like you in clubs.
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    Neil_K is the sort of person who makes me hate the new rep system. I can't choose just one post to neg
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    (Original post by d123)
    Of course I would, but I wouldn't tell a nice guy that I had a boyfriend if I didn't.
    Alright, another scenario here.
    WHAT IF, a guy approaches you, best appearence you've ever seen, really good personality and you've a boyfriend. Would you a) tell him you have no boyfriend, b) tell him you have a boyfriend or c) recommend to be friends?
    Honest truth.
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    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Perhaps Neil_K should create a poll to see how many girls have lied about having a boyfriend.
    I couldn't take a poll like that seriously, because there would be no way to know whether the girls in question were being truthful or not. And the results would likely be 'coloured' by girls reading this thread who would likely vote just to try and prove me wrong....so the results would be meaningless.

    If it came down to the choice between a poll or my ACTUAL REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES, I'd take my actual experiences any day because you cannot argue with real world experience.

    Such a poll would have to be done anonymously and away from a site such as TSR for me to take it seriously. Even then, I'd still take my own experiences over what a 'poll' said.

    (Original post by sophisticated)
    Or.... to see how many guys have had success with a girl who orginally claimed to have a boyfriend.
    Again, not a true test of validity, because most men walk away as soon as they hear the line 'I've got a boyfriend' (since they take it at face value).

    Very few men realise the truth behind the ambiguity of this line, and very few men delve deeper to find out the truth behind that line when a girl says it to them.

    So you could ONLY do a poll of men who have tried to break women down after hearing that line....and since so few men actually persist after hearing that line, then there is nobody to poll on this.
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    (Original post by Neil_K)
    I'm not speculating, I am talking from ACTUAL REAL WORLD experience. You cannot argue with ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. Read the reply I put to 'd123' above regarding my own experiences with girls who initially 'said they had a boyfriend'.



    Just because YOU have never lied about having a boyfriend doesn't mean other women don't.



    Here's the thing that makes your argument shaky....you talk 'from your experience of OBSERVING people'.

    I talk from my ACTUAL experience of approaching and interacting with women who have told me 'I've got a boyfriend'.

    How many women have you approached in your life? (I'm guessing none because I assume you are straight). Well then, you are not qualified to comment on this....

    Whose experience is going to be more valid...that of someone who has ACTUALLY approached a lot of women...or that of someone who has simply OBSERVED people?

    I rest my case.



    I don't play games with women, or anyone. I live my life by a code of honour and base my relationships on 3 things: HONESTY, TRUST & RESPECT.

    If a woman tells me she has a boyfriend when it isn't really true, SHE is the one playing games, not me.

    I pride myself on TRUTH and being REAL with people....and I expect the same in return from people, including women. Which is why if I suspect a girl is lying to me about 'having a boyfriend' (or anything else), then I will get her to reveal the truth to me by breaking her down.

    It would only be 'playing games' if I was dishonest with women, which I'm not. So this point is invalid.



    I never said 'life is about breaking girls down'. Where did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.



    I never said they were. Again, please stop putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. Stick to the topic please.
    Why don't you show women some RESPECT then, and TRUST that they're being HONEST with you, instead of trying to "break them down". Also, you're the one who needs to stick to the topic instead of bragging about your own so-called experiences of "breaking down girls" who said they had boyfriends when they were in fact lying.

    Unfortunately your argument is pretty shaky too my dear. You can't prove all of this rubbish that you're spouting about "breaking girls down". You expect us to take it at face value and believe you. Why should we, when this whole debate is about you refusing to take the words of other girls' at face value when they tell you that they have a boyfriend?

    Conclusion is that you're an arrogant little boy who can't take no for answer. I just hope that I never have the devastatingly bad luck to come across you in a club, or anywhere else for that matter, whether I'm single or not. Code of honour? Ha! Please..... I really hope you're just a convincing troll.
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    (Original post by Tomac)
    Alright, another scenario here.
    WHAT IF, a guy approaches you, best appearence you've ever seen, really good personality and you've a boyfriend. Would you a) tell him you have no boyfriend, b) tell him you have a boyfriend or c) recommend to be friends?
    Honest truth.
    If I've got a boyfriend I would talk to him but if he tried to make a move I would refuse and say I had a boyfriend. I'm not going to cheat on someone, just because someone else comes along. I'd be happy to have a chat and even be good friends if that's what he wanted, but nothing else.
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    Regretting this threat yet, OP? I sincerely hope so.
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    I could say that about boys...
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    Well i dont have a bf and i know quite a few others who dont either though ur right the majority of girls are not just sitting around waiting 4 u 2 come along but i dont think its possible that all the girls in ur uni have bfs, doesnt make any sense. Either some of them are indeed lying or u havent met many of the girls over there. So just keep trying and talkin 2 ppl without putting them off by being overeager. Good Luck
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    (Original post by d123)
    If I've got a boyfriend I would talk to him but if he tried to make a move I would refuse and say I had a boyfriend. I'm not going to cheat on someone, just because someone else comes along. I'd be happy to have a chat and even be good friends if that's what he wanted, but nothing else.
    Okie
    Thanks for the input
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    I don't think anyone is really reading the bull**** Neil_k is posting now...
 
 
 
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