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    (Original post by NigerianStudent)
    Black people feel inferior to whites ? (lol)

    Trust me, this is just white male fantasy
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    Remember to say your superior to someone is act of inferiority. After all you would not walk to a 99 year old woman and claim your stronger than them. When superiority is obvious you don't say it. So you have go it backward,
    Unfortunately, what I'm saying is true.

    You won't believe the number of times I've heard black students at my school saying things that are frankly rather shocking. One student, after being asked about having stolen something from somewhere, said "Of course I did, I'm black".

    I think the state that many African countries are in at the moment also adds to the problem. You can't deny the massive difference between Zimbabwe and the UK, for example.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    To be honest, I think a lot of the problems black people have are due to having a bit of a chip on their shoulder. Many see themselves as 'automatically inferior' to the white majority, so while their esteem plummets, so does their attitude.

    Now, this is not only a problem that black people have. A lot of people from the working classes also have this problem. It doesn't help that a lot of black people are also not very rich.

    I think a lot of black people (teenagers especially) need to get out of the habit of seeing themselves as 'outsiders' to British society and more importantly, need to see that crime or dependency on the state is not the only path for them.
    What a load of rubbish. :rolleyes:

    White British people only look out for their own, they could care less about ethnic minorities. You only have to walk into the workplace to see how much discrimination goes on. Do actually know any victims who have been racially attacked/abused, I do and I know what it feels it. So don't come out with crap about black people feeling inferior or being poor. This country says it's equal and that racism is rare, no it isn't not until you hear the personal stories of peoples lives.
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    (Original post by ajtiesto)
    What a load of rubbish. :rolleyes:

    White British people only look out for their own, they could care less about ethnic minorities. You only have to walk into the workplace to see how much discrimination goes on. Do actually know any victims who have been racially attacked/abused, I do and I know what it feels it. So don't come out with crap about black people feeling inferior or being poor. This country says it's equal and that racism is rare, no it isn't not until you hear the personal stories of peoples lives.
    So because some people that belong to an ethnic minority are victims of racial discrimination, that means that they don't have any form of an inferiority complex? And you are also denying that a lot of black people in the UK (and worldwide, for that matter) are relatively poor?

    I won't deny that some white people are racist, and some do discriminate against ethnic minorities, but I won't say that all white people are racist, nor will I say that no ethnic minorities are racist.

    I think your comment that "White British people only look out for their own" is actually massively racist in itself, funnily enough.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    So because some people that belong to an ethnic minority are victims of racial discrimination, that means that they don't have any form of an inferiority complex? And you are also denying that a lot of black people in the UK (and worldwide, for that matter) are relatively poor?

    I won't deny that some white people are racist, and some do discriminate against ethnic minorities, but I won't say that all white people are racist, nor will I say that no ethnic minorities are racist.

    I think your comment that "White British people only look out for their own" is actually massively racist in itself, funnily enough.
    You'll be surprised, I've done research and studies in racism in this country in particular the workplace and you'll be suprised. Look up the term closet racists on google and you'll know what I mean when I say the majority of white British people are exactly that.

    As to your last sentence, how on earth is that racist. When it comes to education, work, etc white British people are always first in line. I can show you countless cases whereby people of an ethnic background have been rejected for jobs, education, school places etc. You only have to look at London for example to see that schools with a low standard of teaching are given to ethnic minorities whilst the white British people are given their first choice of schools. These are one of many examples which I can give you because I've seen it with my very eyes.
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    Op,the irony is that some of your comments are racist themself! Theres no point playing the race card,when you're being racist yourself
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    (Original post by ajtiesto)
    You'll be surprised, I've done research and studies in racism in this country in particular the workplace and you'll be suprised. Look up the term closet racists on google and you'll know what I mean when I say the majority of white British people are exactly that.

    As to your last sentence, how on earth is that racist. When it comes to education, work, etc white British people are always first in line. I can show you countless cases whereby people of an ethnic background have been rejected for jobs, education, school places etc. You only have to look at London for example to see that schools with a low standard of teaching are given to ethnic minorities whilst the white British people are given their first choice of schools. These are one of many examples which I can give you because I've seen it with my very eyes.
    For one, the terms 'majority' and 'all' do not mean the same thing. For another, that is a very heavy statement, and I'm not sure if it's true.

    On your second paragraph, you have to consider the various factors involved. Do ethnic minorities get turned down for jobs because the employers are racist, or because the applicants not quite as highly qualified? Is the choice for schools not as good because the system is racist, or because many white Britons have a greater choice because there are simply more of them and they tend to be richer?

    Basically, many Black Britons are working class. Working class people are not often as academic as the middle and upper classes. Academia opens doors into a larger choice of careers. And there you are.
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    (Original post by de_monies)
    Op,the irony is that some of your comments are racist themself! Theres no point playing the race card,when you're being racist yourself
    Agreed.

    Also, being racist against white people is still racism.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    For one, the terms 'majority' and 'all' do not mean the same thing. For another, that is a very heavy statement, and I'm not sure if it's true.

    On your second paragraph, you have to consider the various factors involved. Do ethnic minorities get turned down for jobs because the employers are racist, or because the applicants not quite as highly qualified? Is the choice for schools not as good because the system is racist, or because many white Britons have a greater choice because there are simply more of them and they tend to be richer?

    Basically, many Black Britons are working class. Working class people are not often as academic as the middle and upper classes. Academia opens doors into a larger choice of careers. And there you are.
    I wasn't talking about who is more academic. Like many white Brits you've brushed racism under carpet attitude to respond to the the types of racism that take within the workplace and education. These are clear defensive tactics you've used to ignore racism taking place in instuitions in the UK. Just like the rest of them.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    For one, the terms 'majority' and 'all' do not mean the same thing. For another, that is a very heavy statement, and I'm not sure if it's true.

    On your second paragraph, you have to consider the various factors involved. Do ethnic minorities get turned down for jobs because the employers are racist, or because the applicants not quite as highly qualified? Is the choice for schools not as good because the system is racist, or because many white Britons have a greater choice because there are simply more of them and they tend to be richer?

    Basically, many Black Britons are working class. Working class people are not often as academic as the middle and upper classes. Academia opens doors into a larger choice of careers. And there you are.
    Well actually yes they do. Government study found that prospective employees with foreign sounding names were being discriminated against in the job market. Search the FT website, pretty sure you'll pull the article out there. I would love to hear the response to this, people tend to always have an excuse for one racist act or another. I would love to hear the excuse for this one, to try and defend it by saying "oh well the ethnic minority candidates must be worse" is just offensive.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    Unfortunately, what I'm saying is true.

    You won't believe the number of times I've heard black students at my school saying things that are frankly rather shocking. One student, after being asked about having stolen something from somewhere, said "Of course I did, I'm black".

    I think the state that many African countries are in at the moment also adds to the problem. You can't deny the massive difference between Zimbabwe and the UK, for example.
    You need to learn the meaning of sarcasm. No one can seriously be this stupid.
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    Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls in a sea of trolls.
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    Blacks been racist to me many times before.
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    (Original post by NigerianStudent)
    Oh right, you know white people in this forum talk forever about how they are victims of taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, "radical Islam," you name it. White people LOVE victimhood, so long as your the ones who get to CHOOSE which victims count. I always think that it’s better to be prepared for injury. When you buy insurance you are preparing for the possibility of something bad happening to you, becoming sick, getting in a car accident, or broken into by a burglar who then steals your valuables. Yet no one would say you are acting like victims.
    ...what the **** are you talking about?
    Insurance is there in case an accident happens and you are unable to work, therefore it should provide you with enough money to live on comfortably (depending on how much you pay into your insurance) while you're unable to work.

    You saying how "most terrorists seem to be white these days" then giving the cases of Roaul Moat and Derrick Bird is just mind-boggling.
    First off you're telling us that two white people killed people. I'm assuming you realise that these two events happened in a white-majority country... right? Because it would seem not.
    The Taliban aren't all white. Most Somalian pirates aren't white. So what exactly was your point there? That because 2 white people in a white-majority country killed some people then that makes most terrorists white?

    Get your head out of your arse and open your ****ing eyes you ignorant tosser, you're actually being more racist than anyone who has posted on this topic yet. Yet I guess it doesn't make a difference to you, because I'm just a white person who LOVES to be victimised :rolleyes:
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    This is a very sticky tricky issue.

    I think discrimination exist in the UK and people often do not even realise they are doing it. It defiantly goes across all classes, ethnicities, cultural groups and genders. It should be recognised but many of the comments here that proposed to highlight white racism are in fact themselves racist because they stereotype an entire group.

    However by amplyfying the issues you can actually be adding to them, we need to work on our similarities and not differences.

    Children of black African parents are the highest achieving in the UK school system, while white gypsy children are the lowest achieving. This is more to do with the education and culture of the parents and little to do with race.

    People should assessed on their individuality. I think there is a natural tendency to try to categorised and stereotype people, for example people may assume that someone who dresses in a suit is somehow more respectable to someone wearing a short skirt and gold hoop earrings. Studies have also shown you are less likely to trust someone with a different accent to yourself.

    I think BAME initiatives are often misguided-I worked on a Youth Project and just saw them to be divisive and ill thought out. Inequalities in society needs to be ironed out and cohesion needs to be encourages- where they are differences of class, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexuallity etc.

    I have experienced what could be seen as outright racism first hand and I was pretty disgusted. During a shift (I'm a support worker and look after people with learning difficulties). Another colleague and I took 2 asian services users to a west indian carnaval in my home town. It's a brilliant event and I have always enjoyed going. The client I was working with had run low on money, and can get very frustrated and lash out when not able to buy something she wants. We were looking a jewellery stall when one of the guys there (who I'd bought a necklace from earlier on in the day) started giving her a particually aggressive hard-sell for a necklace she couldn't afford. She is very vulnerable and it is not obvious that she has a learning disability, she seemed to be getting a bit upset so I suggested to her that we go and look at something else. The guy suddenly started to shout and me and the other worker that "stupid white *****es" weren't welcome in "our" carnarval and a lot of language I can't repeat on here, he used the fact that we were white a lot in his tirade.

    I'm not sure if this is true racism or he just wanted to be abusive and pick on something about our appearance (in the same way someone would pick on someones weight or glasses to be abusive). I hope he was just a one off ****.

    As for the career racism that has been discussed I do think this is the case. My husband is Brazilian and has found it much harder to get work than it should for someone of his capability and qualification. I doubt however that people do this consciously, I think people often give a bias towards people they feel they relate too. As appearance is such a powerful factor they often do this without realising.

    Compared to a lot of countries I think the UK fares fairly well and has come a long long way in the past century, but just because something isn't always obvious (like in Russia) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Lets focus a little less on the negative and a little more on the positive.
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    (Original post by NigerianStudent)
    Listen most white people have never been attacked by a black person. Never been evicted by a black person. Never had your security deposit ripped off by a black landlord. Never had a black landlord. Never had a black person deny you a bank loan and you've never heard a black person say ‘We’re going to eliminate ten thousand jobs today. Have a nice day" Every mean word, every cruel act, every bit of pain and suffering in your life has most likely had a caucasian face attached to it and I think many white people could make the same claim.

    I could easily tell you about the fact the vast majority of terrorists in the world are white males. Raul Moat ? Derrick Bird ? Killing over 20 innocent people ? The most destructive wars in history were(and are still) waged by whites, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of millions. The most destructive weapons are made by whites. Child and Bestiality pornography is manufactured exclusively by whites. They are also slowly but surely destroying the environment. Whites are more likely to be sexual predators, child molesters (which I believe is the most satanic of acts), rapists, stalkers and mass murderers. Not that I’m really interested in some childish point scoring contest but it’s always good to look at your own garden before you inspect anyone else’s.
    Wow you are a racist. I hope you are a troll and that no-one can have such a incredulous idea of the world.
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    (Original post by najinaji)
    Unfortunately, what I'm saying is true.

    You won't believe the number of times I've heard black students at my school saying things that are frankly rather shocking. One student, after being asked about having stolen something from somewhere, said "Of course I did, I'm black".
    There are 2 things that come to mind with this:

    1. Your school might not be that great because this guy is a complete idiot - a thieving one at that, and any school that accommodates such idiots can't be that good, or

    2. he got home that night, and after he got over the anger of being wrongly suspected, laughed his head off at how many gullible people believed him, because they were desperate (?) to...
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    Why do TSR people care so much about race
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    (Original post by PortiaLovesMcqueen)
    Why do TSR people care so much about race
    There are a lot of trolls.

    Also there are a lot of idiots on here who love to spout ill-informed feelings and this is just the kind of inflammatory issues they can use to do that.
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    (Original post by NigerianStudent)
    Only been here a dayand I see lots of blame shifting arguments going on this ...

    Only been on TSR one day or in the UK?

    Either way what a weird day you must have had to come up with such a conclusion.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Cowpoo! Cowpoo I say!

    Statistics show that black people commit a much higher proportion of crime. There are many reasons for this, but it's not racist to say it. It's fact.

    I feel no guilt about how people of other races live, you make your own way in this world, the UK has very little racism in the great scheme of things.

    This sounds like another case of a racist black guy. Shock horror, they exist you know. This is a case of you blaming white people for a problem you have. And because you're black it must be racism. People really arn't all that racist these days. Get over yourself.
    They really can be. I'm not saying that OP has everything right, but people are pretty racist even now - the amount of racist **** I hear everyday at school, either directed at me, or just racism about blacks, asians, pakistanis, etc is huge.
 
 
 
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