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    (Original post by tieyourmotherdown)
    Aside from the ridiculousness of this comment (i.e I'm pretty sure most white and black people would disagree), I find it hard to take you seriously when you're contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
    how am i contradicting myself? the differences arent due to race, theyre due to background.

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    (Original post by tieyourmotherdown)
    So you seriously don't socialize with somebody on the basis that they don't have the same way of doing things? Oh dear. By your logic we should stop old people from socializing with young people, and conservatives from socializing with liberals ... in fact while we're at it, let's just stop men from socializing with women, eh? :rolleyes: My point is where do you draw the boundary? There is no logical reason why cultural differences are any more of a difference than age differences, because older people grew up in another era where the culture was vastly different, yet I presume you can still get along with most old people, right?
    old people DONT generally socialise with young people becuase they DONT have a lot in common, which is why a young person would feel very left out in an old peoples home.
    men DONT socialise as much with women as they do with other men because they DONT have AS MUCH in common, which is why a man, would not feel too at home in a university where he's the only guy (assumine he isnt attracted to any of them!)
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    white people very rarely have a lot in common with black people, its not due to race though.
    What school did you go to, because if I were you I'd sue them for failing to give you a proper education.
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    white people very rarely have a lot in common with black people, its not due to race though.
    Its good of you to "stand up" for the white race and remind the people of a potential threat of "ethnic cleansing", but tbh, nothing can be done to reverse.

    A party which talk about repatriation won't get elected, and even if it did, wouldn't be able to carry out is policy.

    Briatin is no longer the country it was once. It once ruled over the sub-continent/africa and now cameron goes to india to beg for trade contracts (british pm would never have gone to india 15-20yrs ago and activley seek out trade contracts). The pakistani prime minister told cameron to effectively **** off after he requested a visit. What I'm saying is that britain hasn't got the power to carry out the right-wing dream of a britain of 30-40 yrs ago.

    However what britain can do is to clear up the immigration mess of Labour and tighten policy to a sensible standard.

    Britain can create a sensible immigration policy/standards but cannot reverse the demographics (which with birth rates will continue to change)
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    how am i contradicting myself? the differences arent due to race, theyre due to background.
    If it wasn't about race for you, you wouldn't have to mention it, yet it keeps on popping up.

    old people DONT generally socialise with young people becuase they DONT have a lot in common, which is why a young person would feel very left out in an old peoples home.
    men DONT socialise as much with women as they do with other men because they DONT have AS MUCH in common, which is why a man, would not feel too at home in a university where he's the only guy (assumine he isnt attracted to any of them!)
    OK, well aside from the fact that in reality most people could get along with old people, why aren't you proposing we stop this? You're proposing essentially prohibiting inter-nationality relations by stopping immigration (BNP policy), yet you're contradicting yourself by saying that you find other cultural differences impossible to work with, yet you're not prohibiting them.

    Anyway I'm going to bed. You're keep on contradicting yourself and there's no point having a serious debate with you because your views are purely based upon prejudice, and there's nothing rational behind them.
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    (Original post by tieyourmotherdown)
    If it wasn't about race for you, you wouldn't have to mention it, yet it keeps on popping up.



    OK, well aside from the fact that in reality most people could get along with old people, why aren't you proposing we stop this? You're proposing essentially prohibiting inter-nationality relations by stopping immigration (BNP policy), yet you're contradicting yourself by saying that you find other cultural differences impossible to work with, yet you're not prohibiting them.
    if i was being forced to live in a country where there was no one around me but old people i would be complaining about that, but im not. im complaining about something which IS affecting me which is me being put with a whole city of people who are nice enough for me to be acquantances but not enough in common to be friends or good friends or girlfriends.
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    if i was being forced to live in a country where there was no one around me but old people i would be complaining about that, but im not. im complaining about something which IS affecting me which is me being put with a whole city of people who are nice enough for me to be acquantances but not enough in common to be friends or good friends or girlfriends.
    why not move to a town/city/country where there are people who you feel you have things in common with and can make friends/relationships with?
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    (Original post by Jackthevillain)
    Yer I know I could say I feel sorry for Left wingers but they only have themselves to blame for being sheep and having no personal opinion.
    :curious:

    Not really sure if you're serious...

    I'll assume that you're not being serious and you're just having a laugh... Eh?
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    why not move to a town/city/country where there are people who you feel you have things in common with and can make friends/relationships with?
    well i am going to durham uni lol (hopefully). after that? i dont think theres anywhere we can go in the long term. i live in a town just inside greater london where there was only white people from a really multicultural place and i actually said i miss not having different cultures around me....year after year things changed, and 15 years on theres barely a person who's first language is english.
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    well i am going to durham uni lol (hopefully). after that? i dont think theres anywhere we can go in the long term. i live in a town just inside greater london where there was only white people from a really multicultural place and i actually said i miss not having different cultures around me....year after year things changed, and 15 years on theres barely a person who's first language is english.
    yeh well things aren't likely to change.... only become more "Multicultural" .......

    If you really can't stand it the only option you have realistically is to move to a majority white town... or if you can't stand britain, move to somewhere like australia where you have different cultures but also areas of english/scots/welsh/irish....

    don't hate the bnp, just think their stupid for their one policy party (if you look at it realistically)
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    well i am going to durham uni lol (hopefully). after that? i dont think theres anywhere we can go in the long term. i live in a town just inside greater london where there was only white people from a really multicultural place and i actually said i miss not having different cultures around me....year after year things changed, and 15 years on theres barely a person who's first language is english.
    yeh well things aren't likely to change.... only become more "Multicultural" .......

    If you really can't stand it the only option you have realistically is to move to a majority white town... or if you can't stand britain, move to somewhere like australia where you have different cultures but also areas of english/scots/welsh/irish....

    don't hate the bnp, just think they are stupid for their one policy party (if you look at it realistically). The demographics of britain can't be changed.
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    I often think to myself: do they not have anything better to get on with in their lives, such as a hobby, a relationship, than to be so hateful towards people of different races?
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    without discrediting your piss poor arguement, I dont hate the BNP, rather, I find their policies idiotic and impractical.

    Unfortunately when we think of the term 'immigration', we now seem to think of 'job stealing poles' or 'terrorist muslims', which not only ignores the very skilled migrant sector, as well as those genuinely seeking better opportunities in places that offer them. In turn, the 'indigenous brits' who support the BNP seem to think its their god given right to have jobs/nice houses etc. So, when they cant get it, it is much easier to blame immigrants for your woes- hence the recent 'blame culture' that provides a platform i for nationalist groups.

    So not only would it effectively be electoral suicide if the BNP ever won a majority, but it would take us down the road of nationalism- something that we saw fail dramatically not only in the arab world but in eastern europe too. Nationalism is a populist idea with dangerous, orientalist foundations. Hence the BNP are also a stupid party.
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    I hate the BNP for the following reasons:


    1) Their leader is a moron
    2) Their policies are nonsense
    3) Their supporters are mostly made up of ignorant people.
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    this is NOT about race. a white, british, christian does not have much in common with a brown pakistani , muslim. nothing at all. why should we feel like foreigners in our own country?
    Care to expand? I am a brown Pakistani Muslim, and can easily get on with white British Christians. Also, you mentioned British Christian(learn to capitalize!-I've probably spelt that wrong)

    This country is largely secular. The majority of white people I have met are Atheist. Some have been Christian, and it's easy to get on with them, provided they're not *****. One Christian person in my secondary school liked history and I liked history. See there's something we had in common, despite your claim.

    The majority of my friends in my college are white, as well as my closest friends. In fact, the majority of my friends in total are white. If we didn't "connect" in any way, surely I would have been socially rejected (bearing in mind that I went to a mainly white secondary school, and most people on my course are white)

    I've said this many, many times. I regard myself as Muslim first, British second, and Pakistani third(as long as the latter don't conflict with the previous ones, if that makes any sense) ie: as a Muslim, I didn't agree with the Iraq war(as lots of other non-Muslims do as well), but as a Muslim British, I didn't entirely like Pakistan's links with the Taliban a while ago. As a Pakistani, Im slightly annoyed at India's stance on Pakistani visa's

    Also, it just seems that you can't connect with people of different cultures ie: most people would be able to adapt in this real life scenario.
    You're on a train and you're talking to a Chinese person and across a Swedish person joins in. This happened to me, but I wasn't like "OMG, someone from another culture"

    Most people are fairly tolerant
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    how am i contradicting myself? the differences arent due to race, theyre due to background.
    For all this speak. I kind of doubt that you are christian yourself, otherwise you'd be aware that in churches there are just as many other ethnic groups involved.

    So much for background. It's not as if the children today brought up in the information age will have that much in common with their grandparents. So overall, the cultural background difference can be extremely little.

    It's just idiotic to do a blanket sweep with race, claiming it's about background when in reality evidence suggests there are lots of difference races that have similar backgrounds.

    Besides, what's the point bringing up christianity when the UK is becoming more secular. Overall this applies to most races in the UK.
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    this thread is so stupid. there are so many places all over england that have a majority of non-white people living there. but that doesn't mean that england is being "ethnically-cleansed" of white people. as the population of an ethnic minority grows in a certain area, of course there are going to be larger numbers of this group living there. but it does not mean that there are less white people. the population of white people does not drop just because more people from an ethnic minority are being born. largely, people from ethnic minorities tend to live in an area where there are lots of people from their ethnicity. this could be for a number of reasons, they may want to be closer to family or live in an area where they know that their needs will be met (e.g places where halal/kosher food is sold, or where there are gurdwaras, mosques, temples, synagogues,even churches). over time, white people in the area may have moved away, or less white people may have moved to that area- meaning that in these areas, the population of white people will be lower than the population of ethinic minorities. however, overall, the population of white people in england has not fallen, so you can't sday that they've been "ethnically cleansed".
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    I personally do hate the BNP despite supporting some of their immigration policies, however that is because i support capitalism in all its glory, and only the Green Party is further to the left than the BNP.
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    I like to think that I'm centre and to the OP: Have you never seen/heard of a black Christian interacting with a white person-be they Christian or non-Christian? How have white people in Birmingham been victim to "ethnic cleansing" when they moved out, out of their own free will?
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    Why does everyone hate the BNP?
    Broadly speaking, because they're a bunch of fascist c***s.
    So what if you're white british - if my mate Jack'll be alright if the BNP come to power, it doesn't mean that I forget about my mate Usman. In other words, most people have a problem with racism.
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    if the BNP get into power they'll ethnically cleanse britain of coloured people, but at least they may be compensated and will move to a part of the world they may still feel at home as its their origin.

    if the BNP dont, britain will be ethnically cleansed of white people, but white people wont be compensated, are more likely to face more competition for jobs for people who'll do it for less, and will be forced into living in a society they have nothing incommon with anyone and dont fit in.

    whats worse?


    in the 80s if you voted BNP you were racist because coloured people lived amongst whites without making white people feel like they dont fit in, and even assimilated into british culture.


    nick clegg worked for Survival International, a charity which protects the culture, the way of life and the land of indigeonous peoples such as the aboriginals in australia, and the amazonian tribes. why doesnt he care about the culture of the indigeonous british people, which I, as a Pole 3 generations ago, assimilated into?

    also 75% of criminals in prison are foreign or recent immigrants, of course only a minority of immigrants are dangerous, but how many british lives would have been saved been saved if they werent here in the first place?
    And what exactly would define as British culture and way of life?

    Getting drunk and brawling in pubs doesn't count. Insulting those of other races doesn't count.

    British culture is about tolerating those of many faiths and backgrounds and supporting freedom of speech and equal right for everybody regardless of whether they're black or white.

    You know what, why am I arguing with a troll.

    Oh aren't you that white supremacist guy "Emeralds and Rubies" who had an obsession with the impact Sub-Saharan Africa had made on popular culture and claimed black people were ugly?

    Obviously you never seen Beyonce Knowles or Rihanna. Either that or there's something wrong downstairs or judging by your previous posts, perhaps upstairs too.

    Get lost and get a life you bigotted loser.
 
 
 
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