Arrogant, middle-class students

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Immediate and deferred gratification.

Young people however, are young people.

A working-class man in his late 20s or upwards is just as likely to spend money as soon as he has it as he would be if he was 16.

A middle-class man in his late 20s or upwards is more likely to save it.

However, young working-class people and young middle-class people are just as likely as each other to spend the money. Middle-class kids/teens have no concept of deffered gratification because to them money is very disposable. Their parents give it to them from their generous middle-class wages. They're not frugal at all, and won't be until they grow up.

No offence, did you study this or something? :lol:

Besides, that was the exact word I was looking for, ''gratification''. I don't disagree with anything you said, in fact, you informed me more about the social behaviour of classes, thanks. :smile:

Reply 41

tripleeagle

Original post by lovely_me

A Tory slagging off the middle classes?

I don't think the OP is slagging off the middle classes...just arrogant middle-class students... You may have missed the point at bit :confused:

Original post by Arekkusu

I'm disgusted by middle-class kids [...] I'm middle-class myself

Are you digusted by yourself?

Reply 42

toofaforu

yup. some loser was banging on about his '42 inch plasma in his room' on the tube, made me LOL

Reply 43

No Man

Original post by TheSownRose

Maybe that's why they brag? Because they're not particularly special, and they want something to make them stand out. :dontknow:

I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
I think people only brag because they don't feel special enough.

Except Jose Mourinho, I think he does it for comedy value.

(edited 13 years ago)

Reply 44

basketofsnakes

only a complete bell end would willingly wear jack wills

Reply 45

NyLonEd

Well, I'm "middle class" but don't go on about how many houses my parent's have. Why? It's not that interesting, I know they have them, I like them and that's all I really need. Not the approval of others just 'to feel superior', it's sad.

I detest talking about their jobs or salaries because it's incredibly boring and should mean nothing to others as it's me they are friends with, not my household income.

Unfortunately I do know many people who don't see it this way. They need to be slapped in the face with the Conservative manifesto.

FO SHO.

Reply 46

lightburns

I've never come across this. I have come across working class people who want to let everyone know how poor they are compared, and how they haven't got enough money to live... then a while later, tell you that they're getting an iPhone for xmas. I don't have an iPhone. It's too expensive. But because I keep quiet about how much I've got, and because of my accent, people assume I have piles of cash :frown:

Reply 47

blue acre

You could argue that the least contrived thing of all is naïve arrogance.

Reply 48

ilickbatteries

Original post by Hamesh

No offence, did you study this or something? :lol:

Besides, that was the exact word I was looking for, ''gratification''. I don't disagree with anything you said, in fact, you informed me more about the social behaviour of classes, thanks. :smile:

I'm just a sociology geek mate :colondollar:

It's mostly true, I think. Though it used to apply mostly to education, how the WC are perpetually WC because they're not socialised into the morals and values that the MC are, in terms of how they value money.

Sooner it changes, the better. Social mobility ftw!

Reply 49

Arekkusu

Original post by tripleeagle

I don't think the OP is slagging off the middle classes...just arrogant middle-class students... You may have missed the point at bit :confused:

Are you digusted by yourself?

Yes I am.

Reply 50

purplesky

I go to a private school where nearly everyone is middle class. Not that many people are so in-your-face as you describe but unfortunately they do exist. Usually its less obvious snobbery - I come from a predominantly working class area and sometimes the stupid stuff people say shocks me, though I know by now it shouldn't e.g.

"Oh no, I don't go there. Too many state school kids." :eek:

"It so unfair rich people should have to pay more tax! They work hard for their money, why should they pay more than poor people?" (Annoys me a lot)
"They should raise fees so that university becomes more exclusive." From a person who has a big Tory poster in the window of her house...
"OMG, you live in *not exactly affluent but not bad place where I live*?!!??"

This kind of ignorance annoys me but oh well, I suppose. Most people are nice, if somewhat stuck in their privileged bubble.

Reply 51

SayonaraSamm

Oh, where would TSR be without generalisations?

Reply 52

meowmeowmutiny

I strongly dislike everyone who acts like that, regardless of class.

Reply 53

rupertj

Original post by Kolya

Not really. The only place I've ever come across them is in the descriptions given of them by TSR users...

I think Mrs Thatcher's referring to the Range Rover-soccer Mom families. They are prominent in suburban London/West Essex, if that's anywhere near you.

Reply 54

rupertj

Original post by Hamesh

I've read in a sociology study that it tends to be that as soon as working class get money, they glorify it through material means. This is held untrue for middle classes who tend to save and invest in their future.

Although this can't possibly be treated as a law, it does make some sense given my experiences. But really we're all a blend of consumerist and not-so-consumerist.