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  • View Poll Results: Who is the greatest British Prime Minister?
    Clement Attlee (Labour)
    28.42%
    Tony Blair (Labour)
    9.47%
    Winston Churchill (Conservative)
    25.26%
    David Lloyd George (Liberal)
    4.21%
    Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
    25.26%
    Other
    7.37%

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    (Original post by Teveth)
    Of course the greatest PMs of all time have all been Labour, but in the interest of impartiality I've chosen two Labour, two Tory and one Liberal to be included in the poll. Here is a brief description of the candidates:

    Attlee - The man who pulled Britain out from the ruins after WW2 by expanding public services and social welfare, creating jobs and of course, our finest achievement, the NHS. A true Labour hero and one of the greatest Britons of all time.

    Blair - The first PM of New Labour. The man who introduced the minimum wage, civil partnerships, devolution and the man who helped bring peace to Northern Ireland. Also the man who took Britain to war in Iraq.

    Churchill - A man born into great wealth and privilege who used this to go on to become Conservative Prime Minister. Was PM during WW2, and took much of the credit for Britain's victory, despite having made little contribution. Known to be a sexist and a racist. Looked down on common Brits with contempt.

    Lloyd George - Liberal Prime Minister who laid the foundations for the welfare state. The first and so far only Welsh PM of Britain.

    Thatcher - Neoliberal who hated poor people. Destroyed communities and instilled the 'I'm in it for myself' mentality into the people of Britain. First female PM.
    Being born into weatlh is of completely no relevence to being a great prime minister. You obviously harbour deep prejudice and resentment for people who have wealth.
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    (Original post by Time Tourist)
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    Well you have to look at it within the context of the time, I mean it's all relative to the social values that were the norm back then. In terms of divorce, sex education and homosexuality, of course that was the case back then because that was just the accepted and more or less unchallenged way of thinking. We can't expect a PM from 60 odd years ago to be in line with today's relatively progressive values, because it's all in the context of the time.

    I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's fair to hold that against him as a Prime Minister.
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    If anyone puts Churchill they are idiots.
    Now Cameron on the other hand.
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    George Bush, and by that I mean Tony Blair

    :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by MagicNMedicine)
    This topic has been discussed by academics:

    http://www.woodnewtonassociates.co.u...0Ministers.pdf

    (nb this is since the war)
    Results were
    1 Attlee
    2 Thatcher
    3 Blair
    4 MacMillan
    5 Wilson
    6 Churchill
    7 Callaghan
    8 Major
    9 Heath
    10 Brown
    11 Douglas-Home
    12 Eden

    the relatively low rating for Churchill on this will have been because the discussion was about post-war PMs, so only Churchill's peacetime office (1951-55) qualified, in this time he was old and his health was not very good.

    In fact - just found a study which covers the whole of the 20th century:
    http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpu...px?oItemId=661

    in this one Churchill ranked 2nd to Attlee

    Teveth - are you a student at Leeds? Kevin Theakston, who conducted both of these pieces of research, is Politics Professor there, so you should go and talk to him, he does a 3rd year module in British Prime Ministers which goes into detail in each one.
    Thanks for the info.
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    Is there a correlation between how boring you are and how much you support Labour? I thought my teeth tasted funny. What did you lace it with? Pro-plus?

    (Original post by Teveth)
    Thanks for the info.
    Your welcome. :-)

    Remember Maggie Thatcher was the Greatest British Prime Minister.
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    For me it's a hard choice between Churchill and George.

    (Original post by CrusaderTemplar)
    Being born into weatlh is of completely no relevence to being a great prime minister. You obviously harbour deep prejudice and resentment for people who have wealth.
    Teveth isn't a real human, but is a robot built to spew propaganda for the Labour party.
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    (Original post by CrusaderTemplar)
    Being born into weatlh is of completely no relevence to being a great prime minister. You obviously harbour deep prejudice and resentment for people who have wealth.
    Not at all.

    One of the politicians I respect the most is Tony Benn, a man born into wealth and privilege who gave up his inherited seat in the Lords to fight for the socialist cause with Labour in the Commons. I only resent wealthy people who use their wealth and power in the political sphere for their own benefit and for that of what they see as their class. In other words, Tories.

    In fact, Atlee, the man I see as Britain's finest Prime Minister, was born into a relatively wealthy family. He was naturally a conservative in his youth, but upon seeing the struggles of London's working class and the oppression they faced at the hands of the wealthy few in his early adult years, he devoted his time to the Labour cause.
 
 
 
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