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Although it is possibly safe to say that the majority of people who voted for Bush voted for Bush
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I think what is meant by Gideon is that because the UK has been around for a couple of hundred years more than we have more right to assert our culture. But he has a point - America is, by international standards, still a very young country; and that "culture" should only have weight if it's stood the test of time. Basically - respect your elders (UK). And point of origin, come to think of it.
Absolutely.

We have a rich culture and history spanning 2,000+ years. They have 'values' and a history which started with a nasty war against British patriots.
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huh?
It's a joke. Hard to imagine one on the D&D forums, I admit, but still, a tolerably good joke.
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He's referencing something isn't he?
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It's a joke. Hard to imagine one on the D&D forums, I admit, but still, a tolerably good joke.
Ah got it... thought I missed something
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(Original post by Dschingis)
I think what is meant by Gideon is that because the UK has been around for a couple of hundred years more than we have more right to assert our culture. But he has a point - America is, by international standards, still a very young country; and that "culture" should only have weight if it's stood the test of time. Basically - respect your elders (UK). And point of origin, come to think of it.
By which international standards? Out of the 191 countries in the world, only about two dozen are older than the US. I suppose you respect France by the way, seeing that it's older than England?

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Absolutely.

We have a rich culture and history spanning 2,000+ years. They have 'values' and a history which started with a nasty war against British patriots.
Since when does the culture of the Angles and Saxons resemble the culture of the ancient Britons? If you get to claim them as part of your history, the US can claim the Native Americans. This is quickly degenerating into my penis is bigger than your penis contest.
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Absolutely.

We have a rich culture and history spanning 2,000+ years. They have 'values' and a history which started with a nasty war against British patriots.
That's ridiculous. Do you mean to imply that anything that happened in the US before it formally became a country doesn't count culturally or historically? :rolleyes:
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I dont think it is unfair to dislike someone because of their goverment we all have to experience prejudice because of our goverment. And America need our sympathy least of all. the majority of people voted for the bush administration therefore the majority of America have the wrong values.
Gee, and I suppose it's ok to act rude with anyone who doesn't share your values? Is this a part of your superior English culture?

America is also trying to take over the world

The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; and that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle.

This is a real site with people such as Donald Rumsfeld supporting it
http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm
I think I'm going to punch the next Briton I see for having someone as dumb as yourself as his countryman.
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By which international standards? Out of the 191 countries in the world, only about two dozen are older than the US. I suppose you respect France by the way, seeing that it's older than England?
Yes, as a matter of fact, I do respect France. I'm no patriot... despite what you may have thought of what I said.

And with international standards, I mean the "old" countries that formed the world. Empire builders like Spain, Portugal, the UK, Russia... they were all world powers at one point. It's only fair to compare the US to other once-superpowers. Compared to them, the US is young.
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Have I missed something?

WTF does age have to do with anything?
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Have I missed something?

WTF does age have to do with anything?
Like, everything, dude.
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Like, everything, dude.
Yes, that makes loads of sense. Who cares about values or culture...it's all just about who was here first. :rolleyes:
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Yes, that makes loads of sense. Who cares about values or culture...it's all just about who was here first. :rolleyes:
Yup. The culture of blame passed all the way down from Adam and Eve.
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Yes, as a matter of fact, I do respect France. I'm no patriot... despite what you may have thought of what I said.

And with international standards, I mean the "old" countries that formed the world. Empire builders like Spain, Portugal, the UK, Russia... they were all world powers at one point. It's only fair to compare the US to other once-superpowers. Compared to them, the US is young.
I suppose the Mayans and Incas are greater civilizations than the English then...
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I can't say i'm suprised in the slightest that this is happening, and I doubt many of you are either.

It reminds me a little of the U.S. University that expelled a student last week because he was gay. Apparently students were made well aware of the 'high standards' of the Cumberlands university.
Well, the University is set to receive $11million of taxpayers money for new facilities. Thats right, a homophobic university being funded by the very people who pay the most tax. And we know it is absolutely against the intentions of the taxpayer because the very next morning 400 letters from angry taxpayers landed on the Governor's desk.

It is just like this discimination we are seeing against Americans right now. The Government is constantly pouring our tax money into these societal games in which increased segregation and discimination is an inevitablity. The U.S. Government pours billions of taxpayers hard earned money into unnecessary wars and as usual, the rest of society has to pick up the pieces.
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I can't say i'm suprised in the slightest that this is happening, and I doubt many of you are either.

It reminds me a little of the U.S. University that expelled a student last week because he was gay. Apparently students were made well aware of the 'high standards' of the Cumberlands university.
Well, the University is set to receive $11million of taxpayers money for new facilities. Thats right, a homophobic university being funded by the very people who pay the most tax. And we know it is absolutely against the intentions of the taxpayer because the very next morning 400 letters from angry taxpayers landed on the Governor's desk.

It is just like this discimination we are seeing against Americans right now. The Government is constantly pouring our tax money into these societal games in which increased segregation and discimination is an inevitablity. The U.S. Government pours billions of taxpayers hard earned money into unnecessary wars and as usual, the rest of society has to pick up the pieces.
It is a private Christian university in Tennessee. What exactly did the guy expect? I'm fairly sure that you'd never see this happen in a public university or any university in the non-redneck parts of the country...
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Like, everything, dude.
Oh - silly me :rolleyes:
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It is a private Christian university in Tennessee. What exactly did the guy expect? I'm fairly sure that you'd never see this happen in a public university or any university in the non-redneck parts of the country...
Well, my university is private and Catholic, and I know that all students had to sign a statement saying that they abided by a specifically stated list of moral conduct. I think most universities that would have similar policies have the same mission statements. This isn't to say that homosexual students can't attend these universities (to the contrary, a large portion of the males at my school are gay), they just have to be wary of being open with administrators.
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It is a private Christian university in Tennessee. What exactly did the guy expect? I'm fairly sure that you'd never see this happen in a public university or any university in the non-redneck parts of the country...
Whether it's in a 'redneck part of the country' is irrelevant. The priciple remains, and that is that taxpayers money should not be used to fund an institution that encourages discrimination.

I couldn't give a flying s**t whether it's a christian university, islamic university, private, public, left-leaning, right-leaning, predominantly fascist or socialist or whatever. It is receiving support from the taxpayer and that is all that matters.
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Whether it's in a 'redneck part of the country' is irrelevant. The priciple remains, and that is that taxpayers money should not be used to fund an institution that encourages discrimination.

I couldn't give a flying s**t whether it's a christian university, islamic university, private, public, left-leaning, right-leaning, predominantly fascist or socialist or whatever. It is receiving support from the taxpayer and that is all that matters.
It depends what the public funding is for. It's rare for taxpayer money to be used for private universities, which suggests to me that the facilities that will be created are going to have some sort of greater public benefit than serving only the university and its interests.
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