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    "Everything has failed; let us build jails."

    Stalin again.
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    "We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre."
    - Enoch Powell, 'Rivers of Blood' speech
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    Not a Politician, but definitley a political quote.

    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years."

    This quote is attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler. In 1814,

    A lesson that I think we should all learn when Questioning the current spending reviews.
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    Take your pick.

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell
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    "We must build a kind of United States of Europe." - Winston Churchill, 1946
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    (Original post by playingcards)
    "We must build a kind of United States of Europe." - Winston Churchill, 1946
    "We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. "

    "If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea."
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    (Original post by thesabbath)
    "We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. "

    "If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea."
    That doesn’t really add anything. His position seems fairly consistent with what the three main parties are advocating,

    “We are with Europe, we are linked, we are interested and associated. But we don’t want to be absorbed into a European superstate.” That could be out the mouth of Cameron, Clegg, or Miliband.

    Only the swivel-eyed UKIPpers suggest we have been fundamentally compromised and absorbed by this Europe in 2013.

    Churchill was a prominent internationalist. He was a driving force behind the UN. He saw closer cooperation and links between sovereign states as a driving force for peace and prosperity. You read his quote in full, and realise it’s far closer to the Labour/ Lib Dem / Cameroon position that that of the Tory right or UKIP.


    Churchill loves the EU!
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    (Original post by playingcards)
    "We must build a kind of United States of Europe." - Winston Churchill, 1946


    Nice mis quote.
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    (Original post by thesabbath)
    "We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. "

    "If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea."

    Thank you for adding the rest of the quote.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Nice mis quote.
    It isn't a misquote! The speech in full is linked below:

    http://www.churchill-society-london..../astonish.html

    It's an interesting reminder of how the postwar generations envisioned Europe.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Thank you for adding the rest of the quote.
    And that wasnt even the rest of Churchill's quote. It’s from 1930! The sentence I quoted was from 1946.
    You’re so blinkered by seeing what you want to see – do your own research instead of being a lazy, lazy victim of confirmation bias.

    This is the ACTUAL extended version of the Churchill’s speech:

    "We must build a kind of United States of Europe.

    In this way only will hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life worth living."
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    (Original post by playingcards)
    And that wasnt the rest of Churchill's quote. It’s from somewhere else entirely, (even though, if you read it PROPERLY, it shows Churchill was in favour of a European Union)!

    This is what he said:

    "We must build a kind of United States of Europe.

    In this way only will hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life worth living."

    I was always under the impression that he was pro United States of Europe to make sure that France and Germany didn't start yet another war. But he was always against Britain being a member of this new organisation.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    I was always under the impression that he was pro United States of Europe to make sure that France and Germany didn't start yet another war. But he was always against Britain being a member of this new organisation.
    He said that in 1930, before the Second World War, before the British Empire had collapsed in on itself.

    But could I ask why that’s even relevant?
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    Neither said by politicians but both of great significance:

    We learned a lot about the Moon, but what we really learned was about the Earth. The fact that just from the distance of the Moon you can put your thumb up and you can hide the Earth behind your thumb. Everything that you've ever known, your loved ones, your business, the problems of the Earth itself—all behind your thumb. And how insignificant we really all are, but then how fortunate we are to have this body and to be able to enjoy loving here amongst the beauty of the Earth itself.

    Jim Lovell, Apollo 8 & 13

    When you're finally up at the moon looking back on earth, all those differences and nationalistic traits are pretty well going to blend, and you're going to get a concept that maybe this really is one world and why the hell can't we learn to live together like decent people.

    Frank Borman, Apollo 8
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    "Vote for the democrat who's going to blast me in the ass? Or the republican who's going to blast my ass? Either way, politics is all one big ass blasting."
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    In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons. -Herodotus
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    "Never vote for the best canditate, vote for the one that will do the least harm."
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    Alot of love for Enoch Powell here, maybe you'll also like this one.

    "If you want a ****** for a neighbour vote Liberal or Labour."
    Anon Conservative. Smethwick 1964.

    Nothing like a bit of good old fashioned honesty in politics.

    "And if political correctness has achieved one thing, it's to make the Conservative Party cloak its inherent racism behind more creative language."
    Stewart Lee
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    If we put our trust in the common sense of common men and 'with malice toward none and charity for all' go forward on the great adventure of making political, economic and social democracy a practical reality, we shall not fail.

    Henry A Wallace

    Plus my sig;

    "In my opinion it gives us freedom, not the ultimate freedom that all nations desire ... but the freedom to achieve it." Michael Collins

    Alongside Nikolai Bukharin, near enough my 3 favourite political figures
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    (Original post by n00)
    Alot of love for Enoch Powell here, maybe you'll also like this one.

    "If you want a ****** for a neighbour vote Liberal or Labour."
    Anon Conservative. Smethwick 1964.

    Nothing like a bit of good old fashioned honesty in politics.
 
 
 
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