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    (Original post by Jennienarwin)
    Okay so I've just recently discovered about access courses and how it would be equivalent to A levels but only requires one year.I have been researching about it & it sounds like something i would be interested in.But before I make my mind up about it,i just want to know someone else's personal experience with access courses & if they would recommend it.I am currently 19 & i had dropped out of college due to personal reasons and therefore was not able to complete my A-levels.Now im more motivated & it seems like retaking my A-levels would be long & i really want to go to Uni as soon as possible.Im hoping to do law as ive always had interest in it & i have worked in Law firm for a whole year.Is it hard as some people say?How does it work exactly?
    I am currently doing a the OCN Social Sciences access course and I have found it so much easier than the A levels I did a few years ago. There's 6 exams and 8 pieces of coursework, but these are 1500 word essays which can easily be done in one night. To be honest I think the course might be too easy, there's a lot of people at my college who I believe will struggle when it comes to university. I'd really recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to waste time. I've got into a lot better university than I would have with my A level results. Only one of the five I applied to didn't give me a conditional offer straight away but asked for examples of my coursework before making a decision. I think it may be a little bit different applying for a law degree though, I believe there's usually an entrance exam so some universities may be unwilling to accept somebody who doesn't have an A level in the subject. You'd probably need to contact the admissions tutors at any university you'd like to attend before doing the access course and possibly finding it's not what they want.
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    I'm currently doing an access course, I'll come back to this thread when I get back from work.

    Hint: it's definitely worth it.
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    (Original post by Jiraya Sama)
    How you doing? Long time no speak.

    How have you been fairing in your course. Gained many credits? Many more to go for your chosen university?

    I need another 4 Distinctions and 2 Merits For University of Birmingham to study Law.

    I won't miss our college lol
    Yeah, the other thread kind of died. I'm fine. The course is going well. I don't know exactly how many credits I have so far because the marking has been rather slow. I'm probably going to end up at Coventry to study biomedical science which requires 15 distinctions in biology and, I think, I have 12 so far.

    Good luck!
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    (Original post by TheMagicRat)
    Yeah, the other thread kind of died. I'm fine. The course is going well. I don't know exactly how many credits I have so far because the marking has been rather slow. I'm probably going to end up at Coventry to study biomedical science which requires 15 distinctions in biology and, I think, I have 12 so far.

    Good luck!
    What's your timetable like?
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    (Original post by Oldiebutgoodie)
    What's your timetable like?
    I do 9-4 on a Tuesday which consists of 3 hours of Biology in the morning and 3 hours of Chemistry in the afternoon with an hour break between them. Then on Thursday I have English from 9-12 and then a tutor type of session from 1-3 where you can catch up on work or raise issues with your tutor or anything like that.

    There is also a Maths lesson on Wednesday from 1-4 but I don't do that because I already have above a C grade at GCSE. So, you're looking at around 13-14 hours depending on how much time you spend in tutorial each week.

    Based on what I experience and others I know in a similar situation the teaching tends to take place at colleges over three pretty intensive days. I imagine they try and have the teaching hours over as few days as possible to cater for students who are working and/or looking after kids.
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    (Original post by TheMagicRat)
    I do 9-4 on a Tuesday which consists of 3 hours of Biology in the morning and 3 hours of Chemistry in the afternoon with an hour break between them. Then on Thursday I have English from 9-12 and then a tutor type of session from 1-3 where you can catch up on work or raise issues with your tutor or anything like that.

    There is also a Maths lesson on Wednesday from 1-4 but I don't do that because I already have above a C grade at GCSE. So, you're looking at around 13-14 hours depending on how much time you spend in tutorial each week.

    Based on what I experience and others I know in a similar situation the teaching tends to take place at colleges over three pretty intensive days. I imagine they try and have the teaching hours over as few days as possible to cater for students who are working and/or looking after kids.
    Thanks, I'm already doing gcse Maths and English so that means I would have more time to focus on my subjects. So is it just the one lesson per week for each subject?
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    (Original post by Oldiebutgoodie)
    Thanks, I'm already doing gcse Maths and English so that means I would have more time to focus on my subjects. So is it just the one lesson per week for each subject?
    For me it is but, as I said, because you're doing one three hour session of a particular subject it can be quite intensive with a lot crammed into the three hours. It can be quite a shock to the system when you first start but you get used to it. Well, you either get used to it or fail.
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    Managing it whilst working full-time. Some people work and have kids and do my evening course. Got offers from every application made. It's do-able, it works.

    Good luck
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    Hi there

    I'm starting an Access course in Sept and I'm hoping to get a head start with my assignments.

    Is the word count generally 1500 per assignment and does this include or exclude tables/figures etc.

    Thanks!
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    (Original post by Jiraya Sama)
    Hi,

    All the advise I am about to give you, is most likely what you will not want to hear however it is probably the most honest answer.

    Access courses are rewarding, and are great, ONLY if you are consistent, work hard and want to achieve. They are not their for a quick short cut to university, if you want to go to university to study anything less academic grades required (Not medicine/dentistry/health), then I would suggest studying a BTEC level 2/3, in which you can have plenty of help from the teachers and trying to get many distinctions to get to university.

    If your still reading this post and thinking, I am dedicated, motivated and I am willing to work hard throughout the year, then please read on.

    I will give you the example of myself, I am studying an Access course this year and have applied to university for September. I think I read, that you wanted to apply for Law at university, so this will be most relevant to yourself, seeing as I have also applied to study Law at university.

    In my college, they're are 27 units that are taught across from September to July (we finish in May, and if you are up to date, in which you should be). They're are 3 credits per unit. 27 units x 3 = 81 credits in total. 23 of them units are taught at level 3, and 4 units at taught at level 2 (maximum grade is level 2).

    Some colleges have 6 credits per unit, or even 9, however in them colleges, not every unit will amount to them high amounts of credits, best way to think about it, the more credits, the harder the work (even though you still have to study really hard to get distinctions/merits at 3 credits a piece).

    To pass an access course, you will need 45 of them credits at level 3 (15 units, if we are going by my college), and 15 credits at level 2, minimum. Anything less and you will not pass the access course. Units can come in the following grades, : Referral (Fail), Level 2, Level 3 (Pass, Merit, Distinction). To get a level 3 Pass, you just need to attend college and pay attention/understand the work and finish your assignment. To get a level 3 Merit, you need to do all the things for a Pass INCLUDING Extra research, working in depth or breath. To get a level 3 Distinction, you need to do all the things for a Pass & Merit INCLUDING all extra sources of information, working in depth AND breath, knowing all the various types of cases out their and to work beyond the call of duty.

    SOME university courses, require you to only have a pass and that is fine. However you can still get an offer for a pass from a university and then aim for Merits & Distinctions to put on your CV, maybe for a bursary at that university.

    Law LLB, depending on where you want to study WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE at university just on a pass. Some university's ask for a pass INCLUDING 18 credits at Merit (6 units at Merit). Then you will have the redbrick/ Russell group university's such as University of Birmingham asking for a pass INCLUDING 30 credits at Distinction (10 units at Distinction) and 15 credits at Merit (5 units at Merit).

    To put the University of Birmingham offer into context, a typical offer for Law LLB last year with A levels was AAA, and this year it has stayed the same. Last year's Law LLB offer for access courses was, 24 credits at Distinction (8 units) and 15 credits at Merit (5 units). If we call them grades an equivalency of AAA. This year's offer is, 30 credits at Distinction (10 units) and 15 credits at Merit (5 units). Then the equivalency of these grades to A level will probably be A*AA?. All this is not even accounting to the LNAT test which is required to receive an offer from 10 redbrick/Russell group universities.

    It is very TOUGH. When we started off the year, there was 35+ people in our class and there was a 2nd list of people who were substitutes in case people dropped out. 6 weeksish we have left and we have only 6 people left. Seriously, it is tough.

    Many of my friends have applied to University of Birmingham like me, (staying in Birmingham because of family/work commitments as usual mature students), and they have offers like 30 credits at Distinction (10 units) and they currently have only 12 credits at Distinction (4 units). Because it is too late towards the end of the year, they have wished they could go back and redo work to the best of their ability.

    If you are still going to apply to an Access Course, here are some top tips for you guys.

    TOP TIPS

    1)Make a list of all the courses you wish to do
    2)Ring all the universities you wish to attend and inquire about their courses
    A)Ask them, If I am studying an Access course in .... (Combined Studies?), then how many credits, grades will I require to study my chosen degree?
    B)Ask them, Will I be required to take any external exams, which will not be supplied on my Access course, (For Law, LNAT Exam, which has nothing to do with Access course)? and what grade will I need for that? If so, what deadline will I have to achieve this by?
    C)Ask them, Will I need GCSE's alongside my Access course? Science? English? Maths? Will I need 5 GCSE's above C? (For teachers, you will need C in Maths & English, if you want to do an Education degree I believe)
    D)Ask them, Do I have to study a specific Access course? or can I study a generic Access course? (For health related studies, you need to study a health related Access course due to the information related degree, however for Law, there is Access to Law, but you do not need any Law information to study a Law degree (just like A level students)
    3)Ring your college and ask them, if they tailor your access course to any degree subjects?

    4)Make a monthly routine, NOW before you start college in September, to see how it feels like when you are a student. Monday-Friday 9.00am-3.00pm, are you free? or are you always doing something, which when September comes up, you can't be doing because you will be in college. Can you sort out school runs, because you have children to pick up and drop off and your college does not cater to start after 9.15am and finish before 3pm.
    5)Read up, write a report yourself on anything, anything your interested in, so when you start in September, you aren't boggled in which way a PC starts.
    6)If you are not computer literate, get your family members to show you a few tips and tricks on how to make a Word document, Excel document, Powerpoint document. People on my course depending on getting Distinction grades in ICT modules and they have never used a PC before/struggling to login with their details.

    Access course's DONT DO GCSE's, they do equivalents, they are like half GCSE's. However, if you find this information out prior, then you could maybe do a night class, to get the grades you require.

    Everyone loves Access courses because you can complete the course in a year and then get to university, without the ALTERNATIVE ROUTE of studying 3/4 A levels across 2 years. But do you realise, that means you will be studying and handing in 5 to 6 assignments in 1 go EVERY 5-6 weeks.

    E.g, I am towards the end of my assignment and this is how my current week went.

    Monday AM - English Report (4000 Words)
    Monday PM - English Literature (Powerpoint Assignment)
    Tuesday AM - Psychology Report x2 (3500 Words)
    Tuesday PM - Maths Report x4
    Thursday AM - Biology Exam
    Thursday PM - ICT Reports x2

    You will have an average of 4/5 weeks to slowly get work done, and then you will have a headache/stressful week of handing things in. IF YOU ARE LAZY/NOT STUDYING and prefer to do "All nighters/night before" then you will have a stressful year. Believe Me.

    Sorry for scaring you all away, off an Access course. I have read all the comments on this thread, and all the other threads related to an Access course over the course of the year and have not found "real" information, that I have stated and if it is said, it is not emphasized.

    To get all my Good karma back;

    If you need help related to an Access Course, Feel free to message me,
    If you need help related to an application to study Law at university, Feel free to message me,
    Anything about what ever I messaged above, good or bad feedback, I welcome them.

    P.S, if someone disagrees, or wants to neg, please quote and post anything I have said, which is wrong.

    Thanks, Peace. Hopefully I have informed you with the correct information to make a correct decision which will affect your future.




    Can u re-sit units with access course though?


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    Can u re-sit units with access course though?


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    I will give an example, to hopefully give a better understanding. You receive an offer from a University which requires you to have 45 credits at Distinction/Merit (15 units) and 15 credits at level 2.

    Resits
    If you get a level 3 the first time round. A Pass, then you can not resit again to get a Merit or Distinction. Whatever grade you get on the first time above Level 3, Pass/Merit/Distinction can not be retaken to get a better grade.

    If you get a Pass, you are stuck with a Pass. If you get a Merit, you are stuck with the Merit. Etc.

    If you get a Referral, then you only have one chance of resitting the unit, however you will only get a maximum of a Level 3 Pass, if you complete the work. Even if its Merit/Distinction level, you will be capped at a Level 3 Pass. This rule is also the same, if you get a Level 2, the first time round.

    If there is a deadline, say Monday 9am and you have gone past that deadline, you are capped at a Level 3 Pass, even if its Distinction/Merit Level.

    Resits are capped at one other try. MAXIMUM. If you get a referral first time round and you still do not research/evaluate/etc and get a referral the second time. That's the permanent mark for that unit.

    It is pretty much, work your ass off the first time around.

    Thanks for posting, hope that clears things up.
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    (Original post by Pandagirl1)
    Hi there

    I'm starting an Access course in Sept and I'm hoping to get a head start with my assignments.

    Is the word count generally 1500 per assignment and does this include or exclude tables/figures etc.

    Thanks!
    Usually word count on an assignment is approximately 1500 words. The teachers will not mind if the assignment is above 200 words ish MAX. If the assignment does not have a word count, go crazy.

    I have handed in an assignment this year, (Biology) and I have written 5000 words. The assignment was handed back to me, and the teacher refused to mark it. I thought that I could not cut it down, to get that Distinction level. Took me 6 hours to write it and another 4 hours to cut it down. I still got that Distinction.

    I think they are trying to teach you to write in breath & depth in a concise manner.

    Thanks for posting, hope that helps.
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    (Original post by Jiraya Sama)
    Hi,

    Wish university do you study at now and which university are you transferring to? If you do not mind me asking.

    I am applying for University of Birmingham, Aston Uni and Birmingham City university.

    Thanks in advance.
    I went to Greenwich School of Management, and am now going to Birkbeck, University of London studying LLB Law.
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    What made you transfer?

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    what topics have you done in each subject ? thanks
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    I completed mine in June and passed xxx


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    Hi there, can you tell me a bit more about which access to medicine course you took?
    Also, did you do work experience in the NHS before/during the course? Did you take your UkCAT etc beforehand too and how did you revise for that?
    Which uni's did you get offers from and where are you now?
    How much older where you than most of your classmates? Did this affect your social life/making friendships on the course?
    Sorry for all the questions but this would be really useful to know for a potential budding medic!
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    (Original post by Louisajane95)
    Hi there, can you tell me a bit more about which access to medicine course you took?
    Also, did you do work experience in the NHS before/during the course? Did you take your UkCAT etc beforehand too and how did you revise for that?
    Which uni's did you get offers from and where are you now?
    How much older where you than most of your classmates? Did this affect your social life/making friendships on the course?
    Sorry for all the questions but this would be really useful to know for a potential budding medic!
    Hi, please don't bump old threads. If you have a question, make a new thread.
 
 
 
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