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    Junior Doctor
    37
    45.68%
    Salesmen
    8
    9.88%
    Neither (equally)
    12
    14.81%
    Both (equally)
    24
    29.63%

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    (Original post by DarkWhite)
    Both really.

    I mean, I echo the point that respect is earned. I know some very talented individuals, but their overall character doesn't lead me to respect them nearly as much as others.

    On the face of it, you could think, sure, a doctor saves lives every day, but that is the nature of the profession; they're paid to save lives. Not to take anything away from why they might've become a doctor, but if our respect system is based on life-saving, then we'd only respect a handful of professionals on the face of it.

    One could argue that the salesman is saving lives. The farmer might've been unable to sell marmalade because his expertise lies in making the foodstuff rather than the business side of things. If it's stocked in major supermarkets, and the salesman is earning £1,000,000 a year then the farmer clearly isn't working alone anymore - the salesman has created jobs, a growing business, and marketing a product which the general public are clearly enjoying a lot. All of this will be pumping money back into the economy, and whilst I do feel £1,000,000 is an outrageous salary to take on commission-based marmalade earnings, he has also done a lot for other people.

    But back to my original point, respect is earned in my eyes; there's too much to speculate on here
    I know of positions at this level and a lot more, it was very surprising to me to, party what made me write this.

    Some sell pizza, have set up businesses and done well. Some sell financial services in the city. Both are real and above this mark.


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    (Original post by midnightL)
    Hey guys, just wanted to know your thoughts on this, something that has been troubling more for a little while.

    Who do you RESPECT more?

    Person 1) Junior doctor: got straight into medical school at say Warwick. Lots of great extra-curricular stuff and related work experience. Now a Junior at a good hospital, specialising in something technical say kidney surgery.

    Currently earning £60,000 a year.

    Person 2) Salesman: After leaving school worked very hard at sales based jobs. Finally found an opportunity selling marmalade in bulk for a farmer, the marmalade is of very good quality. Managed to sell extremely well and entered the product into leading supermarkets. He makes commission on his sales.

    Currently earning £1,000,000 a year.

    So guys, who do you respect more? And why? Would really appreciate some comment and would be happy for some discussion.

    EDIT: Poll created!
    £60K wow. An FY1(first year out of Uni) earns £22,798 and an FY2 earns £27,298.

    As to whom I would respect most I respect people who are not only good at their job but treat others with dignity so I would judge them on their individual characters.
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    (Original post by kka25)
    This.

    I could have cared less if the person has any title whatsoever.
    I think you might want to watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
    It's worth watching the whole thing, but skip to 0.50 if you want

    (Original post by Democracy)
    A junior doctor earning £60K a year? Which planet is this guy/gal working on then?
    My first thought was that it was in yen :awesome: But even then... :lol:
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    (Original post by midnightL)
    Sorry! I know nothing of medicine, what is a likely route? I know you can do medicine rather than bio med. but what is a likely timescale and career/salary? This is for a extremely successful doctor, becoming one as young as possible (without skipping years)


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    It really doesn't matter either way for your original point, but if you really want to know then I suppose you could become a consultant with a £60k salary around the age of 30 (assuming this doctor is perfect, and even then we're being impossibly optimistic here).

    Again, it really doesn't matter.
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    (Original post by yellowcopter)
    Junior doctor can help you when you're sick or in a fatal state
    OK

    salesman has helped bring you supplies
    Yep, he's brought us marmalade.

    Both equally help the world.
    :hmmm:
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    (Original post by Rump Steak)
    OK



    Yep, he's brought us marmalade.



    :hmmm:
    Try living in a civilisation where salesmen never existed. Majority of the items we owned could have never made it without salesmen.

    I equally respect everyone for all they do to benefit the world.
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    (Original post by yellowcopter)
    Try living in a civilisation where salesmen never existed. Majority of the items we owned could have never made it without salesmen.

    I equally respect everyone for all they do to benefit the world.
    And so do I. As someone earlier said, I respect everyone until they do something to lose it.
    In principle I respect everyone equally, as long as earn what they've got.

    It was tongue in cheek comment It's just the two statements in your post didn't add up to your conclusion...
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    I respect the doctor more.

    It has nothing to do with their success or how hard they work for it. I just respect people who do science/try to progress science. A doctor is just a much better addition to society than a salesperson ever would be.
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    (Original post by Rump Steak)
    And so do I. As someone earlier said, I respect everyone until they do something to lose it.
    In principle I respect everyone equally, as long as earn what they've got.

    It was tongue in cheek comment It's just the two statements in your post didn't add up to your conclusion...
    It's hard to explain but that's probably because I have to say I do slightly respect the doctor more, considering they save lives and I can live without jam.
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    (Original post by Short Story Long)
    Neither, I don't just automatically respect those who have been successful in life.
    'successful in life' meaning what?
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    (Original post by zz_)
    'successful in life' meaning what?
    Those who managed to get a job and career I'm assuming.
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    (Original post by zz_)
    'successful in life' meaning what?
    Sorry that wasn't clear. That was in reference to money being a measure of success The OP put a lot of emphasis on what their salary was. What I really meant by that comment is that I respect people because of their attributes and they way they treat people rather than just their achievements, because achievements can be grounded on bad attitudes such as extreme greed, and this would make me respect a person less. I cannot judge my respect on what their jobs is because respect doesn't work like that for me.
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    (Original post by Short Story Long)
    Sorry that wasn't clear. That was in reference to money being a measure of success The OP put a lot of emphasis on what their salary was. What I really meant by that comment is that I respect people because of their attributes and they way they treat people rather than just their achievements, because achievements can be grounded on bad attitudes such as extreme greed, and this would make me respect a person less. I cannot judge my respect on what their jobs is because respect doesn't work like that for me.
    fair, i agree with all of that.
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    (Original post by OrcFromOrgrimmar)
    One who has higher item lvl and pvp scores
    :ahee:
 
 
 
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