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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    I'm not in the Socialist Party! Nor was I a member of the government at the time of those bills passing through parliament (though I was and remain a member of the Labour Party).
    Do you support them in the form they went through? Also curious as to why your with Labour rather than the Socialists at the moment. Momentum on the left is clearly with the Socialists.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Erm, they didn't try to ban porn. They tried to make porn a non-corporate commodity in order to avoid people profiteering from the objectification of women. Porn would've still been perfectly legal.
    We should make gay marriage a non-corporate commodity to prevent people from profiteering from the objectification of homosexuals.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Do you support them in the form they went through? Also curious as to why your with Labour rather than the Socialists at the moment. Momentum on the left is clearly with the Socialists.
    Well I still think the Labour Party is the natural party of the left, so I like to think it can be rebuilt and the Socialist moment eclipsed once again. Besides, me and the current Socialists don't really see eye-to-eye.

    As to the bills, well it could have been done in a much better way but the principle informing the process was quite right. Water and other natural resources should be owned by the people.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well I still think the Labour Party is the natural party of the left, so I like to think it can be rebuilt and the Socialist moment eclipsed once again. Besides, me and the current Socialists don't really see eye-to-eye.

    As to the bills, well it could have been done in a much better way but the principle informing the process was quite right. Water and other natural resources should be owned by the people.
    Are trees a natural resource? If not why not?
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Are trees a natural resource? If not why not?
    Yes, trees are a natural resource hence why many trees are managed by the state in the form of the forestry commission. What a daft question.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Yes, trees are a natural resource hence why many trees are managed by the state in the form of the forestry commission. What a daft question.
    Almost all forests are private and the public aren't allowed in.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    This sort of paradoxical viewpoint that the people must be controlled until they form a corporation, from which point onwards they must be free seems to be gradually dying out, which, at least from my point of view, can only be a good thing.
    That's obviously a gross oversimplification of the argument. In fact, I don't think that beyond a cursory glance at the Nolan Chart many libertarians even understand the conservative argument at all.
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    There could perhaps be room for one I guess, as there are no parties right now which are purely authoritarian - whilst there are some UKIP/Tory members, those parties also have social liberals. As long as you could attract enough people and stayed well away from xenophobia I don't see why it wouldn't be a feasible party
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Almost all forests are private and the public aren't allowed in.
    Two-thirds but that's merely semantics, the point is that trees are a natural resource which is why they have been heavily regulated by the state for most of the last century. Not everything that we recognise as a vital natural resource has to be brought into public ownership, after all. It is still a daft question.
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    TSR needs the Monster Raving Loony Party- a shame I cannot commit to the full term of the next MHofC so have not stood this time.

    Paulo di Canio cannot help form a right wing party as he's busy trying to save Sunderland from relegation.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Two-thirds but that's merely semantics, the point is that trees are a natural resource which is why they have been heavily regulated by the state for most of the last century. Not everything that we recognise as a vital natural resource has to be brought into public ownership, after all. It is still a daft question.
    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well I still think the Labour Party is the natural party of the left, so I like to think it can be rebuilt and the Socialist moment eclipsed once again. Besides, me and the current Socialists don't really see eye-to-eye.

    As to the bills, well it could have been done in a much better way but the principle informing the process was quite right. Water and other natural resources should be owned by the people.
    Contradiction.
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Contradiction.
    No, not inherently since I did not say in the second statement "water and all other natural resources".
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    It does appear that on TSR any party that aspires or desires to be any further to the right that Michael Heseltine is automatically labelled as a neo fascist BNP wannabe.

    It is possible to be of the right, without total xenophobia, state ownership of nothing and destruction of the whole of the welfare state.

    Just my two pence worth.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    No, not inherently since I did not say in the second statement "water and all other natural resources".
    Okay I am going to make a comparison and hope mods don't throw warning points at me because i know what they are like.

    Say I was a new Hitler and I said "kill the ****" then when someone questions me I just say "well I didn't say kill ALL the **** I only meant the ones that commit murder" *wink.
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Okay I am going to make a comparison and hope mods don't throw warning points at me because i know what they are like.

    Say I was a new Hitler and I said "kill the ****" then when someone questions me I just say "well I didn't say kill ALL the **** I only meant the ones that commit murder" *wink.

    Mr Godwin raises his head again.....
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Okay I am going to make a comparison and hope mods don't throw warning points at me because i know what they are like.

    Say I was a new Hitler and I said "kill the ****" then when someone questions me I just say "well I didn't say kill ALL the **** I only meant the ones that commit murder" *wink.
    Admit it, your Internetguru aren't you.
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    (Original post by politixx)
    Okay I am going to make a comparison and hope mods don't throw warning points at me because i know what they are like.

    Say I was a new Hitler and I said "kill the ****" then when someone questions me I just say "well I didn't say kill ALL the **** I only meant the ones that commit murder" *wink.
    I'm not sure you get warning points for writing gibberish.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Just a minor point, the last government didn't have a majority. It had 19 seats out of 50.
    Huh, seemed like more. But then I suppose there were a lot of people missing and the greens boost the left of the house up, while being commendably active in their own right.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    TSR needs the Monster Raving Loony Party- a shame I cannot commit to the full term of the next MHofC so have not stood this time.

    Paulo di Canio cannot help form a right wing party as he's busy trying to save Sunderland from relegation.
    You will be missed.
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    (Original post by Rhadamanthus)
    That's obviously a gross oversimplification of the argument. In fact, I don't think that beyond a cursory glance at the Nolan Chart many libertarians even understand the conservative argument at all.
    I agree that it's oversimplified but I also agree that I don't understand the conservative argument. By all means educate me.
 
 
 
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