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    (Original post by TheMuppet)
    How much of the £36m does she lose because she has so many empty bedrooms?
    None because it isn't welfare.
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    (Original post by rsplaya)
    None because it isn't welfare.
    I think you missed the point there
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    (Original post by playingcards)
    So you do care about democracy?

    Excellent, you’ll be fully in favour of the people voting to decide who represents us as Head of State.
    Yes!
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    bloody stupid, my fathers friends have lost their jobs, he is on the verge of almost losing his and the queen gets paid so much for sitting on her fat arse doing jack **** apart from waving and being admitted to hospital with the runs/****s.
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    (Original post by Login)
    This is completely ridiculous! The amount of work the Queen does is close to nought, yet she is being granted this highly exquisite pay rise. This is absurd and completely preposterous, to the highest extent :mad:
    I don't think you realise how much she actually does, she's 86 and works practically everyday. After all, she attends many public engagements and raises a lot of money for the country. So why shouldn't she get more money? After all, that money includes looking after all her estates.

    For more information on how much she actually does for the country: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...rking-day.html
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    (Original post by JubilantYou)
    That's b*******!
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    (Original post by Blazinq)
    Scrap the monarchy and have a president.
    The queen needs more money because all the things she buys are not ordinary things but they are special ROyal Queen things that cost a lot more.
    For example, she has to buy special royal queen petrol from a special royal petrol station.
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    (Original post by yorkshire.lad)
    bloody stupid, my fathers friends have lost their jobs, he is on the verge of almost losing his and the queen gets paid so much for sitting on her fat arse doing jack **** apart from waving and being admitted to hospital with the runs/****s.
    She's not paid.

    The properties she owns employ many hundreds/thousands of people.
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    In what possible context would the queen ever take money out of her purse and pay for something?
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    Imagine if we had President Blair, or even someone like Mr Hollande as our leader? Then Vice President Prescott?
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    (Original post by Login)
    This is completely ridiculous! The amount of work the Queen does is close to nought, yet she is being granted this highly exquisite pay rise. This is absurd and completely preposterous, to the highest extent :mad:
    It isn't pay, it's the cost of running the office of Head of State of the United Kingdom. The UK does this more cheaply than many similar nations. The increase in costs partly derives from the spiralling cost of maintaining the very large properties belonging to the state, such as Buckingham Palace - the latter is open to the public much of the year and acts as a major tourist attraction.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Imagine if we had President Blair, or even someone like Mr Hollande as our leader? Then Vice President Prescott?
    Prezza would cost us more than £5m a year in pasties.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Prezza would cost us more than £5m a year in pasties.
    ...and the rest!



    He once bumped into me in the HoP Lobby- my claim to fame!
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    (Original post by SpiggyTopes)
    Can it really be said that giving the Queen back an extra £5m of her earnings is unfair?

    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    The crown estate is not the private property of the queen, and its profits belong to us and not her, its not her money that we're giving back to her, its ours.
    ^What he said^
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    You realise the £36.1 million is for upkeep of her palaces, paying the royal staff and other Royal expenses, she won't be going on a shopping spree on the weekend down the Kings Road with her grant. These costs would be the same or higher if a Presidency was in place.

    + We get an added economic bonus and feel-good factor from having a monarch, it provides a sense of stability and grandeur.

    Think about it like this if the monarchy in the UK was like the Saudi Arabian monarchy with 15,000 members who all spent their wealth extravagantly and ran the country as a cut throat autocracy the revolution would have occurred centuries ago.
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    (Original post by S1L3NTPR3Y)
    + We get ..a feel-good factor from having a monarch..
    Speak for yourself!
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    (Original post by S1L3NTPR3Y)
    You realise the £36.1 million is for upkeep of her palaces, paying the royal staff and other Royal expenses, she won't be going on a shopping spree on the weekend down the Kings Road with her grant. These costs would be the same or higher if a Presidency was in place.

    + We get an added economic bonus and feel-good factor from having a monarch, it provides a sense of stability and grandeur.

    Think about it like this if the monarchy in the UK was like the Saudi Arabian monarchy with 15,000 members who all spent their wealth extravagantly and ran the country as a cut throat autocracy the revolution would have occurred centuries ago.
    She doesn't have to have palaces or royal staff. In fact she doesn't even need to exist you really think it would affect the running of Canada if the Queen just disappeared into thin air?
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    (Original post by rsplaya)
    She doesn't have to have palaces or royal staff. In fact she doesn't even need to exist you really think it would affect the running of Canada if the Queen just disappeared into thin air?
    Do you propose to simply let every single one of those buildings fall in to disrepair? The money spent on a president will workout at about the same rate.
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    (Original post by S1L3NTPR3Y)
    Do you propose to simply let every single one of those buildings fall in to disrepair? The money spent on a president will workout at about the same rate.
    And if we had a largely ceremonial President like many countries do, she'd be elected into the role anyway with her popularity!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...record-support
 
 
 
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