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    Quantum and Relativity,that`s it.!
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    (Original post by markova21)
    Hello.Well Professor Brian Cox teaches Quantum and something else to 1st years at Manchester. Because of this,you need A*A*A to get in. But he only teaches 1st years,and in the first term.!
    When you get to uni you realise Brian Cox is not the coolest physicist in the world. Some of my lecturers are much more awesome. They've just not been in a rock band.
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    Some of the comments on here I find quite shocking,nasty and immature. You should go over to the Social Work at Queen`s University ,Belfast page. People there,complete strangers,are genuinely supportive of each other. No *****iness or anything. BTW,I`m not a student. I`m the parent of a 16 year old who wants to go to Uni .He is laid back ,chilled and not arrogant enough to frankly,give a **** which Uni he ends up in ,as long as he can do his degree somewhere. A little bit of humility in a person is a lovely quality to have. I wish you all well. You must all be brain-boxes to be doing,or thinking of doing,Physics. But university will never,ever teach anyone how to be a decent human being if they`re not one already.Remarks are directed at no-one ,BTW. It`s just the observations of a 44 yr old.!!
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    Sorry I forgot, I`m 45 now. See, I`m just an old fart. Can`t even remember how old I am.
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    (Original post by Topaz_eyes)
    I am in my third year of studying Physics at Cambridge. I did Materials Science and Chemistry in my first year (no "rock science" although there was a Geology option), but only did Physics and Maths in my second year and only do Physics now. I have definitely covered as much Physics as in a degree at another university! We do General Relativity in third year which is not compulsory for either Imperial or Oxford (I think - just did a quick google!) and is a very difficult conceptual course.

    You should enjoy other sciences to do Natural Sciences but it is definitely a good and thorough Physics course!

    My friends who are first years at Cambridge call it "Rock Science", but yes, its actually called geology. I don't really get what you're trying to say here, can you actually get to the point a little quicker and not be so vague in your description?

    And I will forgive you for your general relativity error; Oxford is the only university to put it as a mandatory part of the course and not an option. It is optional at Imperial.

    Imperial and Oxford undergraduates begin day 1 specialising in physics; whilst Cambridge students do not. If you are trying to say that at the end of your degree you're on par with the physics and maths, then thats highly pretentious considering in your first year you've done subjects such as geology.
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    What's people's opinions on Edinburgh's physics department; I've an offer from imperial but wary about London!
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    (Original post by String.)
    What's people's opinions on Edinburgh's physics department; I've an offer from imperial but wary about London!
    I wouldn't ask for people's opinions in this thread...

    But in all seriousness, it's probably very good. Edinburgh is one of the best university's in the world, known to be strong all around. They've also got a huge range of modules:
    http://www.drps.ed.ac.uk/12-13/dpt/utphysm.htm
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    (Original post by stuart_aitken)
    Basically it shows you're a whiz at maths, logic and intense problem solving, and you have a great grasp of statistical analysis, probabilities of success and projection of most-likely outcomes. This is all great because it can be applied to money and investment.

    It's not really related to science at all, but the core skills you gain from Physics, engineering, maths and the likes are largely transferable into these kinds of fields. Maths is the best because it's the purest form of problem solving.

    Still daft though. I'm glad you don't see the connection. Stay that way! Study science for the science!
    Ahh thank you

    I'm doing Med in october , was just curious what you all were talking about!
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    So this thread went exactly how I predicted...at least it's good to see this board liven up a bit, even if threads like this did put me off TSR in the first place. People also need to learn how to use the rep system, I reckon I didn't deserve negs for my original post because I tried to stay impartial and gave an opinion, even if people don't agree with it. It's probably the nature of the physics board, compared to say english/philosophy, where the debates will be much better.

    And to those arguing sensibly, don't bother, i got caught up in too many of these last year.

    Edit- after going through the whole thread, I remember now a big reason I swung to choosing Durham over Manchester and Imperial- too many (read:not all, before you all neg me) physicists are weird, elitist, snobby, anti-social, spend too much time trolling on the internet, and in general aren't the best people to be friends with. Being in a collegiate university means it's so much easier to meet people outside your immediate accommodation/course.
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    Ok just happened to come across this thread and had to put my pov across because I'm nosey!

    A guy just wants a little advice on physics courses. He wants to gain from they people's experiences.

    Instead of some helpful advice and positive feedback he gets this snobbery, insensitivity, immaturity and condescending behaviour.

    I'm not a physics student the nearest I'll get is watching Brian Cox lectures and the nearest I'll get to Oxford university is watching Morse but I just feel that someone asking for a little advice really doesn't need this level of stupidity from a few supposedly intelligent people.

    So on that note I shall return to being a girl of very little brains and be happy about it. Ciao


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    (Original post by markova21)
    Some of the comments on here I find quite shocking,nasty and immature. You should go over to the Social Work at Queen`s University ,Belfast page. People there,complete strangers,are genuinely supportive of each other. No *****iness or anything. BTW,I`m not a student. I`m the parent of a 16 year old who wants to go to Uni .He is laid back ,chilled and not arrogant enough to frankly,give a **** which Uni he ends up in ,as long as he can do his degree somewhere. A little bit of humility in a person is a lovely quality to have. I wish you all well. You must all be brain-boxes to be doing,or thinking of doing,Physics. But university will never,ever teach anyone how to be a decent human being if they`re not one already.Remarks are directed at no-one ,BTW. It`s just the observations of a 44 yr old.!!
    Despite being able to counter every point made by the arses in the thread, I've resisted because it's not worth it.

    Anyway, just wanted to say that this is a good post :yep:
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    And for that reason, you do not think there are lecturers at Cambridge that think a world of the imperial course?

    For that same reason you think there are no Cambridge lecturers that haven't thought a great deal of the Warwick's maths course?

    Still staying on the same reason, you think there are no Imperial lecturers that equally haven't thought a great deal of the Cambridge's maths course?
    Not really tbh. But it's not hugely relevant - my main point is asking for grounds to believe imperial maths when, from personal experience, it isn't all that.

    And FWIW, I would be surprised if most imperial lecturers didn't think the Cam course was good. Because it is. Almost objectively.

    (Original post by speakerfone)
    I know people who think Imperial's the best thing since sliced bread.

    I know people who think 1+1=3

    So what's your point? they'll always be people who think x and y and the majority is not always right, whatever it is.

    Don't forget, a lot of Imperial and Warwick's staff are ex-Oxbridge and if they are hell bent on insisting Oxbridge are the "best", they will belittle Imperial / Warwick.

    Somone at Warwick was told by her tutor in the first week that a good degree there (maths) was equivalent to an average at Oxford.

    What is the purpose of such info? It might be true but as the tutor was a Warwick staff, he should be promoting Warwick.
    Yeah, I was actually talking about people who do know about their subject matter. But only essentially to back up my own opinion from experience, to someone who doesn't seem to have any. I'd happily chat about the actual merits, but the problem with that is that it's self evident to anybody who's seen enough.

    Unrelated to this, but the fact that a lot of Warwick and Imperial academics are ex-Oxbridge tells its own story.

    And if you've still missed it, my point is that imperial maths isn't that good. I've seen a lot of their past papers, and Oxbridge is definitely harder, and I have fair reason to believe Warwick is too. That's about it.

    Edit; if you're not being facetious, and do know people who think 1+1=3, I suggest you meet new people.

    (Original post by Melthusa)
    My friends who are first years at Cambridge call it "Rock Science", but yes, its actually called geology. I don't really get what you're trying to say here, can you actually get to the point a little quicker and not be so vague in your description?

    And I will forgive you for your general relativity error; Oxford is the only university to put it as a mandatory part of the course and not an option. It is optional at Imperial.

    Imperial and Oxford undergraduates begin day 1 specialising in physics; whilst Cambridge students do not. If you are trying to say that at the end of your degree you're on par with the physics and maths, then thats highly pretentious considering in your first year you've done subjects such as geology.
    Highly pretentious? No. If untrue, it might be arrogant. As it is, it's essentially true. Theoretical physics grads from Cam have ended up on the hardest maths courses going, relatively regularly for my mind. Also, from what I recall, the only UK physics grads considered worth anything in Europe are oxbridge, imperial, and maybe a couple others (as someone not interested in doing physics past school, I didn't check). So clearly Cam is considered up there.

    (Original post by RYRK)
    which institution has won the most recent nobel prize in physics , duhh...... UCL, so it is obviously at the same league as ICL . end of...BURNED....lol.

    sure ICL does have higher entry requirements and ICL degrees are known to be harder but most of people who go there have no socail life beyond studies, you dont get a real uni experience.

    if you really do want to get into banking , trust me , you need to be really social and likable

    whereas UCL is a bit more eased out, your life is much more balanced, you have a proper uni life and a good social life and still UCL achieves the same as ICL, so i dont what rubbish you are on about when you are saying that UCL is not within the league as ICL


    and you get the same employment benefits as you would get from going to ICL , and a lot of UCL maths/science/engineering graduates have got employment in BANKING too.
    Cracking. Immediately deciding you're the final word on 'real uni experiences', feeling you know what's needed for banking (how many bankers do you know personally, by the way?), and comparing the social lives of two universities when you've only been to one of them. Fantastic.
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    (Original post by Nichrome)
    Congratulations, this is one of the worst threads I've ever read on TSR.
    thanks i appreciate it lol
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    This genuinely amused me :mmm:
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    (Original post by Slumpy)



    Cracking. Immediately deciding you're the final word on 'real uni experiences', feeling you know what's needed for banking (how many bankers do you know personally, by the way?), and comparing the social lives of two universities when you've only been to one of them. Fantastic.
    I know two actually , one who graduated from LSE , and now works at JP Morgan , and another one , which I am not very sure about.

    I have been to both imperial and ucl , ucl seemed much more relaxed and the people seemed very nice , imperail was brilliant aswell, thier facilities were really good , but some how I could see that their work load is really hard , sure imperial is Better in academics , but for me personally I prefer a place where I can have a bit more freedom . I am not one those geniuses, so proably would not be able to keep up with imperails work load anyways.
    Hence the reason I chose UCl , and it is still in the same league as imperail.
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    I would go, based on reputation: Cambridge, Oxford and Imperial.

    To make it 5, I might choose Manchester and Warwick.
    This wouldn't have anything to do with fact you are a Manc student would it ?
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    (Original post by turboweevil)
    This may be true as a guide for the university in general but if you look at the league tables for physics specifically only 3 of the 6 you've mentioned are in the top 10.

    Lancaster, Birmingham and Liverpool all have abnormally good physics departments for the calibre of university. I have friends who went to UCL and Imperial for physics and now that we're in our second year the other two are starting to wish they'd have come here instead despite the grandur of the other insitutions



    Also Nottingham, forgot that one.
    Seeing as they all rank highly, I think your statement is somewhat harsh, perhaps :confused:
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    (Original post by miser)
    I've heard good things about Nottingham for physics.
    This is true. St Andrews is also very good.
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    (Original post by Melthusa)
    For straight physics, Oxford and Imperial are better than Cambridge, but for a more rounded "physical sciences" course, then Cambridge is what you want! You'll do alot of stuff like rock science there too

    As for the other 2, Manchester is pretty good for all round physics too; it has a high quality of teaching; as for the 5th there is some debate around it, but I wouldn't say at all its Durham like some people have said. Most likely to be Warwick or Birmingham!
    Why not? It's one of the strongest in the world for astrophysics.

    Not that I believe there's anything close to a definitive top five anyway.
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    (Original post by River85)
    Why not? It's one of the strongest in the world for astrophysics.

    Not that I believe there's anything close to a definitive top five anyway.

    Oh not you again.

    No, it isnt. There is no evidence, qualitative or factual to support your claim. Look, I know you probably go to Durham and rave to your friends about "Doxbridge!" but the idea that Durham is the "3rd best" in the country is simply ridiculous.

    Astrophysics does not even stand out at Durham either, its not like it has a much better and more renowned teaching, nor has it any particular strength. I don't really think you should be saying things like this without any actual evidence, I mean, do you actually do physics? I'm guessing you don't.
 
 
 
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