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    (Original post by HopefulMidwife)
    I've heard this many times before, and I don't buy it. Feminists aren't about equal rights for everyone, because issues affecting men don't concern them. In fact, they trivialise them or try to justify it by saying 'women get it worse'. They are for equal rights for women, in line with the 'constant stream of justice men are afforded'. They don't care about everyone.

    It's like people who are heavily into black rights. They don't care about white people.
    This. Exactly, I'd say that it was perfectly acceptable for the votes for women campaigns, and civil rights campaigns to take place, because they were severely disadvantaged economically, socially and politically back then, however today for the most part that isn't the case, so I'd wish people would either turn to become humanists or find some other way to promote equality for both sides of the coin. great post, +1 rep
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    (Original post by wildbluesun)
    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :P I suck at sarcasm.

    Anyway, you're probably a feminist.
    http://www.areyouafeminist.com/


    Oooo, I hate it when people think like this. That the only reason you could think a system or convention is unfair is because it disadvantages you, as opposed to seeing the inherent injustice in the system/convention.

    When I'm not studying, I work as a model. I literally make a living being judged on my looks. And partially because being judged on my looks is a very important aspect of one part of my life, I'm come to realise how shallow and unfair that type of judgement is in other parts of my life.

    Anyway, this is me.

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    If that is actually you then stop moaning. I would give you an 8/10. . . You're welcome.
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    I give this thread 3/10
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    (Original post by wildbluesun)
    I think it's awful, and every time I see it I cringe inside. Firstly, because reducing someone down to just their physical attributes is just so shallow. There's a lot more to everyone than just their appearance.
    How about this:

    "My friend is really nice."
    "Please don't say that - there's a lot more to people than just how nice they are. Reducing them to their niceness is simply shallow. I think it's awful to do that."

    Do you see the absurdity of your opinion?


    When we rate someone's looks, we aren't "reducing" them down to just that; we're only rating the looks. We are well aware that there's more to people than their appearance, but you are either just dumb, or are incorrectly understanding people when they rate someone out of 10. (Probably the latter.)

    Even if it was reducing women down to just looks, what's disgusting about that? Sure, it's dumb if you're actually trying to evaluate the whole person, but I don't believe that anything that anyone says or thinks is abhorrent, nor does it make me feel sick.

    (Original post by wildbluesun)
    Anyway, you're probably a feminist.
    http://www.areyouafeminist.com/
    That's a dumb test. It asked me if I thought all humans are equal, and when I answered "no" it took me to an unrelated page about human rights.
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    (Original post by Robbie242)
    This. Exactly, I'd say that it was perfectly acceptable for the votes for women campaigns, and civil rights campaigns to take place, because they were severely disadvantaged economically, socially and politically back then, however today for the most part that isn't the case, so I'd wish people would either turn to become humanists or find some other way to promote equality for both sides of the coin. great post, +1 rep
    Thank you

    I'm a humanist, but I'd go so far to say I'm a 'lifeist'. I'm for the equal rights for all life on earth.

    By the way, I love how (some) feminists pay no mind to the barbaric process of chopping off little boy's foreskins, and how incensed they get when it's compared to MGM.
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    It is annoying but as someone pointed out it is to an individual's subjective perspective.

    Though rating people like that is flawed simply because it is unidimensional.
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    (Original post by MasterJomi)
    Makes thread complaining about judging peoples physical attributes,
    works in industry about judging peoples physical attributes.

    Ahahaha, OP what a mug.

    And no, I will continue to rate people out of 10. You get 5/10.

    Also... There are so many females who try and say they model when in fact they're very average looking.. it's quite annoying, please stop.
    That's the point. Modelling is about judging physical attributes so it's fair to judge them, it's part of the job. But it's not fair to rate people in everyday situations when they didn't ask for your opinion.

    Also the OP isn't trying to say she models... she does model.
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    I agree with you so much! I don't understand how someone can judge another person based on looks alone, I know people do it in everyday day life but it doesn't take into account a persons personality or other attributes which the individual may find attractive therefore they are just preventing themselves from knowing a person that they may really get on with because they physically only find them a "1/10". At my college there is a boy with a severe physical disability. He is the nicest guy anyone could meet, no one goes up to him and says "Awww, you're a 1 out of 10 can't get to know you" I personally feel that you need to get to know the person before you can say they're attractive in terms of looks.

    I think it has a similar principle to that "Hot or not" thing that runs in America (I base this on Mean girls) but things such as rating people on how they look could really damage someones confidence and self esteem. In a time where so many people are image concious and have eating disorders or something body dysmorphia is it really acceptable to judge someone on how they look alone? We all want to be accepted in society, and the rating thing just ostracises people to an extent in that if they get a low rating they feel as if they are not accepted and are not good enough.
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    OP's strategy to get feedback on her physical appearance was poor and needlessly complicated.

    1. Start thread about how it is wrong to reduce people to their physical appearance, in order to boost thread views and responses.
    2. Wait for argument to start. Predictable posters say, "you're only saying that because, when reduced to your physical appearance, you're a 2/10".
    3. OP rebuffs this with images of her at a photo shoot, reducing herself to her physical appearance.
    4. Throwaway line saying that despite being a model, she is aware of the problems in the industry of reducing women to their physical appearances. This means that she isn't a hypocrite.
    5. Gets positive feedback on her physical appearance.

    Most people just do steps 3 and 5. I admire the attempt to make it less obvious, but it has backfired, I'm afraid.
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    (Original post by wildbluesun)
    Um, most people aren't pornstars...that's the point...rating random people you don't know based solely on their physical attractiveness is normally not okay. When deciding which bit of porn to **** to, sure, it's fine. When looking at people's Facebooks with your friends and going "yeah she's a 6 he's a 4 DAMN look at ASS she's a straight up 10" - it's not okay. Those people are not there for you to judge. It is not okay to continually be ranking, judging, rating, strangers based on VERY limited information.

    Imagine if you did this in real life, to someone's face. Would you tell a stranger you'd just met "you're a 4...sorry...I don't find you ****able...but hey we can still be friends!"? If you think that's appropriate, then you are a very strange person indeed.
    If you look at it like that, then i agree with you that it is wrong. I assumed that you assumed that the woman agreed to receiving a rating. In situations where you have random FB pics it is absolutely wrong.

    There are some situations where the woman does not have to give consent, for example, a super model who is being viewed by millions, as she knows she is going to judged by the public when she works in this industry. This part is more debatable.
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    (Original post by R4INBOW)
    What's with the influx of rate me threads lately? :erm:

    I think everyone's being harsh to the OP. Your probably not very much of a catch yourself :lol:
    Nope, ops a model.
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    (Original post by wildbluesun)
    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. :P I suck at sarcasm.

    Anyway, you're probably a feminist.
    http://www.areyouafeminist.com/


    Oooo, I hate it when people think like this. That the only reason you could think a system or convention is unfair is because it disadvantages you, as opposed to seeing the inherent injustice in the system/convention.

    When I'm not studying, I work as a model. I literally make a living being judged on my looks. And partially because being judged on my looks is a very important aspect of one part of my life, I'm come to realise how shallow and unfair that type of judgement is in other parts of my life.

    Anyway, this is me.

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    (Original post by Mastermind007)
    This is so sad
    So is your face
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    It's so annoying when ugly people start rating other people to make them self feel better! Thanks for the thread
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    (Original post by Mastermind007)
    This is so sad
    Some people spend too much time on the computer..
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    mila kunis, HOT
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    (Original post by Hypocrism)
    The concept of feminism is ultimately divisive. If people actually stand for equality, they should consider themselves humanists, someone who cares about equality of all people, and are not just restricting their views on equality to people with vaginas. Feminism is a pathetic, self-interested form of humanism that's fundamentally plagued with the issue of real biological differences between the people involved. Don't get me wrong, I'm entirely in agreement with the values behind feminism, and I used to consider myself one, but now I dislike the term feminism; the good intention behind the values should be applied to all people and not focused on your own 'in-group', and the term feminism tends to do that.

    Also, if 'feminists' truly cared about equality among humans, rather than being selfish and sorting out their own problems first, they would be campaigning to prevent poverty or starvation in third world countries, because there's a LOT more inequality between for example people in the UK and people in Africa than there is between UK men and UK women. Identifying as a feminist over identifying as a fully fledged humanist just implies someone thinks their biological sex gives them more important problems than those of less fortunate people.
    I agree with you, and the other people saying that all people's rights are equal and that men's rights are just are important as women's rights. They are. They REALLY are. I think most modern day feminists would agree with that, and the feminism I'm into is typically about breaking down gender roles and starting to see people as individuals rather than as collections of gender stereotypes. The variety of feminist who thinks we should figure out how to have babies without men and then kill all the men...those people are just bonkers, I don't agree with that at all.

    I prefer the term "feminism" to "humanism" for that set of beliefs, mainly because I think women still generally have less power and influence in society than men, when it should be equal. Like women are vastly underrepresented in business, in politics, etc; women have more violence - especially sexual violence - committed against them than men (bearing in mind that there's nothing to stop men being groped or catcalled by women, but men seem to do this to women far more than women do it to men); women earn less than men even in equivalent jobs; etc etc. I think women are generally less advantaged than men in society, so the term feminist still makes sense. Also, the term humanist is already attached to a different set of beliefs about secularism and the separation of religion and state (http://humanism.org.uk/), whereas the word feminism is unambiguously associated with reconsidering gender roles.

    At the end of the day though, it's just semantics. There are bits of society where women are advantaged over men, which is just as big a pile of bull as the bits of society where men are advantaged over women, so if you prefer the term humanist then I understand that and it's cool. We're on the same side. We just use different words for it.

    And it's impossible to campaign for every cause, there are too many. Caring about gender equality doesn't mean you don't care about ending world hunger, but it's impossible to devote your entire life to both. It's very probable (though obviously I don't know for certain because how can I) that current feminist thinkers invest money in overseas development programs as well. I don't think it's fair to criticise someone for investing most of their time and energy into trying to make things better for people in their own country.
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    Well said OP. Horrible behaviour.
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    (Original post by AvocatDuDiable)
    Well said OP. Horrible behaviour.
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