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    (Original post by sammynorton90)
    Whenever I speak to 'radicals' they always claim the reason they don't start a revolution is because the left is too small now after the collapse of the USSR and the forces they are fighting against are too powerful. I personally think this is an excuse and that a lot of these so called 'radicals' are just trying to create a cool Che Guveura style image for themselves, and would **** themselves and be too scared to join in a real revolution.

    And by revolution I don't mean a protest, or a riot where they just vandalise things, I mean an actual, well-organised, planned out, revolution. But when I ask why this doesn't happen to 'radicals' they just give the excuses I listed above. They also try to make out that people like them are really rare, like I'm meant to go 'oh my god, not a teenage radical, I've never seen one of them before', when in actual fact its so predictable and cliché its like I'm watching The Young Ones. Am I just being cynical, or do you think a large amount of people who give themselves the radical tag are just doing it for an image?
    It is not the democratic way, change shouldn't come from armed revolution, it should be by the mandate of the people.
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    Lefts far too small. Hasn't got enough power on the central stage in terms of media. Its harder to convince people towards the left when people have been brainwashed from the right until birth. Britain is not a revolutionary country although i can see it happening one day just not now. In terms of the way inequality is heading.
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    (Original post by a729)
    Loool surely the surge of UKIP shows a shift towards the right- originally started my the sadly departed Mrs T
    The UKIP are right, but they are still far to left in terms of Nationalists.
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    (Original post by nimrodstower)
    It is not the democratic way, change shouldn't come from armed revolution, it should be by the mandate of the people.
    Yet in so many cases throughout history due to the nature of the government or regime the people have only ever been able to put in place a mandate and freely express themselves..via an armed revolution.
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    The UAF do and they justify violence on the basis of them being morally superior. Frankly they disgust me.
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    As has been said elsewhere, it doesn't have support because no-one wants it apart from naive students who haven't had a job yet. Get over it.
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    (Original post by VonMiller)
    I live for the ideology so you shut up and let me get on with changing the world so your offspring can enjoy a glorious, prosperous, non-alienating future and live, not only exist.
    How exactly are you changing the world? Give me a real-world example, not what you plan to do, or some committee you're a member of.
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    (Original post by a729)
    Loool surely the surge of UKIP shows a shift towards the right- originally started my the sadly departed Mrs T
    Many may argue that it's not a surge to the right. It's just that people have general concerns about a federal Europe. Politics now can no longer be viewed as left wing versus Right Wing. There's another axis on the Scale now. Pro Federal Europe or Anti Federal Europe. There's many on the left that worry about the EU. In fact, many of the arguments about our entry into the EEC were led by Labour and the left.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Lefts far too small. Hasn't got enough power on the central stage in terms of media. Its harder to convince people towards the left when people have been brainwashed from the right until birth. Britain is not a revolutionary country although i can see it happening one day just not now. In terms of the way inequality is heading.
    Classic excuse. 'Lefts too small, me and my hardcore left-wing views are such a rarity', utter bull****. Go to any sixth form or University and you'll find thousands, and thousands, of people with your views. The problem with the left isn't the size, its the sincerity of the people who espouse the views.
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    (Original post by Kiss)
    The UAF do and they justify violence on the basis of them being morally superior. Frankly they disgust me.
    This.

    There as bad as the EDL sometimes.
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    (Original post by sammynorton90)
    Classic excuse. 'Lefts too small, me and my hardcore left-wing views are such a rarity', utter bull****. Go to any sixth form or University and you'll find thousands, and thousands, of people with your views. The problem with the left isn't the size, its the sincerity of the people who espouse the views.
    For a movement you need sympathy across a range of demographics. Nobody denies that there are plenty of Marxist students, but the point is that a lot grow out of it.
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    (Original post by Rhadamanthus)
    Because British society, history and culture is innately opposed to the idea of revolution as a solution to political problems. The entirety of British history is the idea of settlement and gradual change, not brain-dead, continental, rationalist claptrap.
    Ever heard of Oliver Cromwell and the first Republic in Europe since the ancient Greeks??? dumbass.
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    (Original post by the mezzil)
    This.

    There as bad as the EDL sometimes.
    The UAF are worse. Look at the arrest numbers.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    For a movement you need sympathy across a range of demographics. Nobody denies that there are plenty of Marxist students, but the point is that a lot grow out of it.
    How many people do you need for a revolution? There's a lot of rich socialists that would probably donate a lot of money to the cause. As I say, I could easily find 500k people claiming they're communists or radicals within 2 months. That's more than double the active personnel in the armed forces, and surely right now when the countries at it's worst its been for a long time, a lot of people would sympathise with a socialist cause?
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    Because revolutions are generally started and driven by a peasantry. Private schooled lefties cant do eff all.
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    (Original post by sammynorton90)
    How many people do you need for a revolution? There's a lot of rich socialists that would probably donate a lot of money to the cause. As I say, I could easily find 500k people claiming they're communists or radicals within 2 months. That's more than double the active personnel in the armed forces, and surely right now when the countries at it's worst its been for a long time, a lot of people would sympathise with a socialist cause?
    500k communists lmfao
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    500k communists lmfao
    not real communists obviously, but 18-25 year olds claiming to be to seem cool
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    (Original post by sammynorton90)
    not real communists obviously, but 18-25 year olds claiming to be to seem cool
    Cool? being a communist is the dumbest thing anyone could ever be.
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    (Original post by Jordan-James)
    Cool? being a communist is the dumbest thing anyone could ever be.
    Debatable. But to a student from a middle/upper class family, it's the ultimate form of rebellion.
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    (Original post by sammynorton90)
    Debatable. But to a student from a middle/upper class family, it's the ultimate form of rebellion.
    Sorry what part of the world are you from?
 
 
 
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