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    (Original post by SkaGirl9)
    I think they should play it, it wouldn't be in the charts if the majority didn't want to hear it. It's no more offensive than having to listen to Nicki Minaj for example. I least you guarantee 57 seconds in which your ears won't bleed.
    Here Here. I don't want to listen to Nicki Minaj; thatcher supporters don't want to listen to the queen is dead. Tough, it's what the public want and you can't censor the public.
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    Ding Dong The Capitalist Corporations Are Benefiting from the 1/3500 people who've bought it.
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    (Original post by rsplaya)
    Champagne socialists spending their millions on music.
    Indeed. The amount of collective money they have raised to purchase a silly song in order to promote their bitterness and hatred could have been put towards better causes.

    And they say Maggie lacked compassion!
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    (Original post by poiuy)
    Here Here. I don't want to listen to Nicki Minaj; thatcher supporters don't want to listen to the queen is dead. Tough, it's what the public want and you can't censor the public.
    Is it though?

    A minority (a very vocal minority nonetheless) but still a minority are falling over themselves to buy a song because they believe that if sales of this song exceed all other sales, it will prove some political point, that in reality the public hated her. And you are lapping it up.

    Just what are the sales figures in actual thousands? A tiny minority of the UK's actual population.

    So lets try a more reliable benchmark...

    Perhaps you can explain the following recent YouGov poll results on her legacy.

    http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net...acy-130409.pdf

    The highest proportion of respondents see her as the greatest postwar PM.

    52% found her performance good (fractionally up from the same figure while she were still alive)

    These are all facts, not prejudices.

    Going on from this, I'm willing to bet you could not relate me to one single action by her government that was not taken in the national interest.
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    Is it me or is the song not even on the Official charts? I looked here, and no. 4 is (unsurprisingly) What About Us by The Saturdays ft. Sean Paul, with no mention of Ding Dong the Witch is Dead anywhere in the top 100.
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    (Original post by Row Z)
    Debatable. She chose to live a public life and she has the right to be completely scrutinised. If people disagree with her as much as many in the North did, then it isn't over the top to say that they can be happy at her death.

    I don't wish to compare her to any of the recent dictators who've died and I'm not doing so, but they too were political leaders who people felt happy were dead.
    This is bull**** reasoning, sorry. She chose to make decisions which affected the lives of millions, yes, and that's what deserves scrutiny. If people want to criticise her actions in life, fine. Don't dance on her grave.
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Just read she used to spend her evenings setting up arms deals for her son
    Think that was probably satire. Especially considering two other anecdotes in that article:

    "Margaret had just finished a gruelling three days bullying Geoffrey Howe, and we all expected her to go home to bed with a bottle of scotch. Instead, she personally inspected every public convenience in north London. Any that fell short of her high standards, she bleached with Vim. That was the measure of the woman."
    "We appeared to have reached an impasse with the Soviets over the location of missiles in eastern Europe, when Margaret stood over an air vent and allowed her skirt to billow. She then said in her huskiest voice, 'Do you want a blow job or not, Mikhail?' After that, tensions eased significantly."
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    I think the hero-worship of Thatcher is disgusting and I certainly don't think she'd have approved of all the smarminess and sucking up, and certainly not of the money spent.

    I read in the Independent earlier today that the funeral is going to have a Falklands War theme! How downright classless and tasteless is that? Like a campy theme night down the Commons bar, and a wholesale insult to the young men who died there. It shows the depths to which we've sunk when we venerate our leaders just to appear tough overseas and distract from problems at home. There's another country doing that right at the moment, a certain country in the Far East which we are all supposed to denigrate as backward...

    I am a big Thatcher fan, but the present government is an incompetent and malicious shower of ****. Their sick street party deserves to be ruined on all sides, and if that means downloading a song that disrespects Thatcher in death, so be it.
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    Think that was probably satire. Especially considering two other anecdotes in that article:
    LOL, anything that agrees with their prejudices, no matter how ridiculous, eh?
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Yeah ... I type Young

    I am one of the few people on here who actually lived through the Thatcher years

    [My views may best be expressed by pointing out that I spent my formative years living in a mining village in South Yorkshire]

    Having seen the edit in your post
    I was post-teen in 1984
    Wow. You're old*.

    And know your way around TSR.

    I respect that.

    * you know, relatively. My dad's 60 and I don't think he is old
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    (Original post by benevansben)
    I'm not old enough to comment on her policies.
    You don't need to be to see her legacy.
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    I have mixed feelings towards the celebration of her death. Part of me wants to jump for joy, the other part of me is saying that actually we should show more common decency towards other human beings, especially in death, than what she did.

    That said I'm all for this reaching number #1 (fingers crossed) and being played on the radio. Even if it does seem a twisted way to express one's views about her it's vital that when people look back on her death there are marks of protest and signs that not everybody was jumping on the maggie bandwagon.
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    (Original post by paddyman4)
    People claim to dislike her because she abandoned compassion in her decision-making, and then show absolutely no compassion themselves. No one seems to care about the two people who have to spend weeks reading about the people partying over their mother's death and who will have to face the inevitable funeral-crashers.

    People hate her because she broke decades of willing delusion and associated decline by turning on the people who wanted a life the country couldn't afford to pay for. It's not Thatcher's fault that mining had become uneconomical. We may as well prop up swordsmiths and horse and cart salesmen with government money.

    I was happy when Gordon Brown left office. I think he was misguided and power-hungry, but in the end he probably did care about his country. Regardless, I won't celebrate his death 20 years after he leaves politics. As someone above says - it was fine to celebrate when she left office. To celebrate her death is pathetic and disgusting (and I bet it's mainly students who weren't even alive in the Thatcher years).
    1 - This isn't hypocritical, you don't show someone compassion who doesn't show any compassion for you. People tend to reciprocate the feelings which are shown towards them - this is a perfect example of that.

    2- You're right, not many people do care about her two children. To find out why maybe read up on them a bit, especially Mark.

    3 - Gordon Brown being compared with Margaret Thatcher. Just lol.
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    (Original post by abc:))
    I have mixed feelings towards the celebration of her death. Part of me wants to jump for joy, the other part of me is saying that actually we should show more common decency towards other human beings, especially in death, than what she did.

    That said I'm all for this reaching number #1 (fingers crossed) and being played on the radio. Even if it does seem a twisted way to express one's views about her it's vital that when people look back on her death there are marks of protest and signs that not everybody was jumping on the maggie bandwagon.
    I don't think it's appropriate to celebrate anyone's death, but the sickening worship of her is also irritating. She wasn't a martyr, she wasn't a saint, there are people who liked her policies and benefited from them, and there are those who suffered as a result of her decisions. To hail her as some sort of a national hero and spend vast amounts of public money on her funeral, when the country is in dire straits financially is ridiculous.
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    (Original post by AutVinceriAutMori)
    I don't think it's appropriate to celebrate anyone's death, but the sickening worship of her is also irritating. She wasn't a martyr, she wasn't a saint, there are people who liked her policies and benefited from them, and there are those who suffered as a result of her decisions. To hail her as some sort of a national hero and spend vast amounts of public money on her funeral, when the country is in dire straits financially is ridiculous.
    I don't like turning politicians, or in fact popular figures into heroes at all no matter how good people think they were. Churchill, Chavez, Diana, Queen Mother.... those are the obvious ones that spring to mind. I just don't think it's very healthy and it definitely doesn't help when it comes to trying to get to the bottom of the actual history of these people as everything you read is just full of ideology and agenda.
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    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Is it though?

    A minority (a very vocal minority nonetheless) but still a minority are falling over themselves to buy a song because they believe that if sales of this song exceed all other sales, it will prove some political point, that in reality the public hated her. And you are lapping it up.

    Just what are the sales figures in actual thousands? A tiny minority of the UK's actual population.

    So lets try a more reliable benchmark...

    Perhaps you can explain the following recent YouGov poll results on her legacy.

    52% found her performance good (fractionally up from the same figure while she were still alive)
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    Okay then. Record sales have gone down for obvious reasons. Just because a record has been bought by 30,000 people doesn't mean only 30,000 enjoy listening to it. the minority who buy the record correlate with a majority enjoying the music.

    The you gov polls likewise with every other poll is going to be biased, whether that be anti thatcher for the guardian or pro thatcher with the daily mail. Why? Because the data was collected by the sun readers, and the sun is pro thatcher with comments like'' The track is expected to be aired on Radio 1’s chart show on Sunday night after a rush to buy it by hate-filled lefties''
    Yougov I find is slightly biased as to take part in their surveys which are paid you have to sign up online. Only a small amount and a certain niche of people will answer their polls, which does not represent the majority of people in the country.
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    (Original post by abc:))
    I don't like turning politicians, or in fact popular figures into heroes at all no matter how good people think they were. Churchill, Chavez, Diana, Queen Mother.... those are the obvious ones that spring to mind. I just don't think it's very healthy and it definitely doesn't help when it comes to trying to get to the bottom of the actual history of these people as everything you read is just full of ideology and agenda.

    It's not healthy, and the fact that you're not supposed to discuss the deceased's flaws and mistakes, particularly when it affected a large number of people does nothing to make the situation better. I mean, sure, hosting a party over Thatcher's death might be over the top, and so is using personal insults against her, but lets not pretend she or her policies were flawless and done nothing but good to the society(which doesn't exist, according to her). I don't see why it's wrong to point out that not everyone prays to Iron Lady or that she screwed some people over and screwed some things up.
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    (Original post by Row Z)
    then it isn't over the top to say that they can be happy at her death.
    but her death changes nothing... in fact, if anything, it's a bad thing for the left since she is no longer around to be criticised regarding what she did in office
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    I can think of nothing more cringeworthy than a bunch of 'adults' revelling in the death of an old woman. I've seen them on T.V and they're the usual rag-tag bunch of peaceniks, hippies and dreadlocked SWP members, or 'disappointments' as they're known to their parents.

    Grow up and please sort your lives out. If Thatcher was so atrocious New Labour would have reversed her reforms while they were in power.
 
 
 
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