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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    Sorry, I mis read it.

    I thought she'd said stop, but I can't control when I ejaculate. You reach a certain point as a male where it doesn't matter what happens, your parents can walk in, the world can end, you could see the most horrific thing. But you can't stop yourself from ejaculating, because physiologically...well you just can't.

    To expect someone to be able to know exactly when they'll *** isn't reasonable. Penetrating someone and then being told to stop and not stopping is rape (which is what I thought had happened). Penetrating someone and ejaculating inside of them by accident is not.

    If it wasn't by accident, I don't know if it'll count as rape or not, but intention would be next to impossible to prove.
    She did not withdraw her consent from the boy allowing him to penetrate her. Instead, she requested that he not ejaculate whilst in penetration.

    However, this is not considered rape as the OP gave her consent in regard to the penetration, but she did not want the boy to ejaculate whilst in penetration due to risk of pregnancies, STI's etc.



    (1) A person commits an offence if-
    (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

    (b) B does not consent to penetration, and

    (c) A does not reasonably believe that B person consents.
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    (Original post by Habibul Bashar)
    DO NOT REPORT HIM. That could get him on a Sex Offenders Register and destroy his life prospects..
    Are you implying that a woman can just put any man she has sex with on a Sex Offenders Register? That's a retarded system.

    Obviously if she said to the police 'I wanted him in me but not to jizz in me' they'd arrest her for wasting police time, but surely you can't just get people ****ed over potentially for doing nothing.
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    Well i always think ( in case u would report the guy with the police ) "even a dog i would not send to the police" cause jail ant no holliday hey,,,

    But the guy would be helped very much with profesional mental care of a profesional therapute, and often without reporting him he wil never get in touche with a shrink or therapy or something...

    Thus a dillema...
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    (Original post by TheStudent1289)
    She did not withdraw her consent from the boy allowing him to penetrate her. Instead, she requested that he not ejaculate whilst in penetration.

    However, this is not considered rape as the OP gave her consent in regard to the penetration, but she did not want the boy to ejaculate whilst in penetration due to risk of pregnancies, STI's etc.



    (1) A person commits an offence if-
    (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

    (b) B does not consent to penetration, and

    (c) A does not reasonably believe that B person consents.
    When did she withdraw consent?
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    When did she withdraw consent?
    Sorry it was me missing out a word! Sorry, haha :P.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    When did she withdraw consent?
    You could read this:

    most recently the guy I was with didn't stop after I asked him to not finish in me.
    as being the withdrawal of consent if he was very close and they both knew it then effectively she's telling him to pull out.
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    (Original post by Norton1)
    You could read this:



    as being the withdrawal of consent if he was very close and they both knew it then effectively she's telling him to pull out.
    That presumes that he kewjust how close he was.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    That presumes that he kewjust how close he was.
    No, I think you presume when it was said and how she said it. If someone says 'stop before you ejaculate' at the very beginning and then he makes a mistake I'd tend to say that's probably just about the risk you take in that situation. If she felt him speed up and said,say, 'Don't come inside me' or 'Stop I don't want you to come in me' I think that would be quite a clear withdrawal of consent. So ultimately we don't have enough information.

    I think actually the line

    Is this behaviour just boys being boys and him being too eager and rough for me or does it constitute the legal definite as rape?
    Suggests there's maybe a bit more to this, I'm not sure whether it's natural to describe someone miscalculating the timing as 'rough'.
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    Entirely your fault for being a somewhat twisted tease.
    You report him not only will you loose but i do pray he sues you for slander.
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    This post sickens me. Your logic is so flawed.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Upon coming to university I've been quite sexually active compared to only sleeping with one guy before. Shamefully most of the guys I slept with are from nightclubs and spontaneous situations, mostly friends of a friend not just strangers and I don't often use protection. I've exploring what I like sexually more since I've been here and I found I like pleasure delaying guys a bit so they can go for longer and get more eager an excited and I feel more desired. Given we don't use a condom and I usually tell them to stop once they get close before they orgasm as I don't want to take any chances getting pregnant and I kinda like delaying their pleasure, however most recently the guys I was with didn't stop after I asked him to not finish in me. I don't know whether I should report this, in recent affairs many rape victims have been bullied and called names my their whole towns and this guy is very popular and goes to a great uni. Is this behaviour just boys being boys and him being too eager and rough for me or does it constitute the legal definite as rape?
    You're a ****ing idiot.

    1) Withdrawal method...

    2) You have some weird teasing fetish.. Why do this to random guys you sleep with on nights out that you don't even know?

    3) You've probably got aids.

    As a guy, there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to stop. It's called the point of no return for a reason. My mum could walk into the room when I am about to finish and I still wouldn't be able to stop.

    You're not getting bullied because you're a 'rape victim', you're getting bullied because you're an absolute idiot.

    I'm genuinely angry reading this. You want to ruin someones life because you had sex with him and he came in you.

    Really ****ing hope I don't meet any women like you.
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    (Original post by Snagprophet)
    Are you implying that a woman can just put any man she has sex with on a Sex Offenders Register? That's a retarded system.

    Obviously if she said to the police 'I wanted him in me but not to jizz in me' they'd arrest her for wasting police time, but surely you can't just get people ****ed over potentially for doing nothing.
    I don't know. But I do remember a post on here a couple of weeks ago where a guy retaliated to violence from his girlfriend. She reported him to the police but quickly realised this was a mistake and she was just being vindictive. Still, the police gave him a caution (or something, vague sorry I can't remember) and he couldn't do a job/course as a result.

    There are circumstances where women can pretty much get people ****ed over for doing nothing
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    S1 (1) A person commits an offence if -
    (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina of B with his penis
    (b) B does not consent to penetration
    (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents

    (2) Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents.
    You have to prove that you clearly did not consent; someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it matters whether you withdraw consent before or whilst having intercourse.

    The jury would decide whether he thought you consented or not from the circumstances e.g. how you behaved at the time.

    There aren't enough facts to determine S1(1)(b) and (c) but I would be pretty shocked if he did get a conviction.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Upon coming to university I've been quite sexually active compared to only sleeping with one guy before. Shamefully most of the guys I slept with are from nightclubs and spontaneous situations, mostly friends of a friend not just strangers and I don't often use protection. I've exploring what I like sexually more since I've been here and I found I like pleasure delaying guys a bit so they can go for longer and get more eager an excited and I feel more desired. Given we don't use a condom and I usually tell them to stop once they get close before they orgasm as I don't want to take any chances getting pregnant and I kinda like delaying their pleasure, however most recently the guys I was with didn't stop after I asked him to not finish in me. I don't know whether I should report this, in recent affairs many rape victims have been bullied and called names my their whole towns and this guy is very popular and goes to a great uni. Is this behaviour just boys being boys and him being too eager and rough for me or does it constitute the legal definite as rape?
    This is because of people like you.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Upon coming to university I've been quite sexually active compared to only sleeping with one guy before. Shamefully most of the guys I slept with are from nightclubs and spontaneous situations, mostly friends of a friend not just strangers and I don't often use protection. I've exploring what I like sexually more since I've been here and I found I like pleasure delaying guys a bit so they can go for longer and get more eager an excited and I feel more desired. Given we don't use a condom and I usually tell them to stop once they get close before they orgasm as I don't want to take any chances getting pregnant and I kinda like delaying their pleasure, however most recently the guys I was with didn't stop after I asked him to not finish in me. I don't know whether I should report this, in recent affairs many rape victims have been bullied and called names my their whole towns and this guy is very popular and goes to a great uni. Is this behaviour just boys being boys and him being too eager and rough for me or does it constitute the legal definite as rape?

    Are you ****ing for real?
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    (Original post by Zarek)
    How ridiculous. Consent to sex and then change your mind in the middle. Rape, NO, not in my view nor or I hope in any court.
    Actually courts DO view it as rape - if your getting it on and you have entered a woman and she changes her mind, by continuing on you ARE raping her. - will you just carry on regardless?

    (Original post by AvocatDuDiable)
    "For the offence of rape to have been committed the defendant must 1) have penetrated you without your consent, or 2) continued to penetrate you after you withdrew your consent, and 3) the defendant must not have reasonably believed that you were consenting."

    1) He had your consent to penetrate you (presumably).
    2) You did not withdraw the consent (to penetrate you).
    3) See point 1.

    Referring to 2), you told him not to finish in you, not that he couldn't penetrate you. Not rape.

    This would be my understanding as well - you didnt remove consent to stop sexual activity just for him not to climax inside of your vagina. So no not rape from a technical pov - and courts always go on the technical side.

    OP you are a stupid woman - not because your having multiple partners - i personally have no issue with that, but becasue your not using protection, you can have any number of asymptomatic STD's at this stage.

    Use a condom you dumb bint
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    Im sorry did I just read that right you had CONSENSUAL sex with a guy but because he came when you didnt want him to you think your a rape victim? Are you actually taking the piss? You are not a rape victim you have not been raped do you even understand what rape is ?? did this guy force himself on you No, did he pressure you into sex no.


    Its actually disgusting you think you can get this guy done for rape, there are poor woman and men who have been raped who have been forced and you then have the cheek to believe you have the same rights as them?

    If you report him it wont get you very far you wont be able to bring a rape charge against him as he didnt rape you

    Maybe stop spending so much time with your legs apart and trying to ruin innocent mens lives and use your brain
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    (Original post by zeropoint)
    Of course you can withdraw consent during sex. Say you're having sex and suddenly it becomes really unpleasant for you, you have the right to stop something that's happening to your own body. Control over your body is a relatively fundamental right.

    I agree with you it probably wouldn't get far in court, reasonable deniability, lack of evidence etc, but that's the letter of the law (I think).

    If you're asking them to stop just because you enjoy teasing them then you're playing a dangerous game though, as is unprotected sex with strangers.
    Yes, sorry I do think a women can change her mind during sex. The issue here though is about consent to finish inside which I think is different. The most I can rate the mans behaviour here is a nasty betrayal of trust, not a crime. Also because in my view the OP (if she is genuine), from her description, takes a fair degree of responsibility for what happened.
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    (Original post by therisenmitten)
    This is because of people like you.
    I've run out of Rep, but this is exactly what I was gonna say.
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    (Original post by Zarek)
    Yes, sorry I do think a women can change her mind during sex. The issue here though is about consent to finish inside which I think is different. The most I can rate the mans behaviour here is a nasty betrayal of trust, not a crime. Also because in my view the OP (if she is genuine), from her description, takes a fair degree of responsibility for what happened.
    Yeah I agree now, AvocatDuDiable found the legal definition of rape which this wouldn't meet. She asked him not to finish inside, she didn't ask him to stop, so she isn't withdrawing consent to sex.

    For what its worth I don't think the OP is real, but its still worth debating. Its straightened out my opinion, and if a real girl had an experience like that, they know where TSR consensus stands.
 
 
 
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