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    (Original post by Pendulum3)
    If it was an adult with no kids, then I guess they wouldn't have to no, but if they had kids then out of the best interest I would like to keep my kids away from the paedophile, so I'd 100% like to know.
    The database would be leaked to adults without kids anyway.
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    (Original post by Tahooper)
    So they can take extra precautions.
    Such as? If you're already being a responsible parent there's not much more you could do to protect your child other than shadow them 24/7.
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    (Original post by Converse Rocker)
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    Heard on the news that some people want access to a database that tells you whether a child abuser is living close to you. Pretty sure the women they talked to were both Mums, arguing that they had the right to know this kind of thing.

    Do you agree? Or do you agree with the counter argument that it only encourages vigilantism?
    (heard this on the BBC but now I can't find an article on their website)

    Edit: I changed paedophile to 'child abuser' to reflect the fact we are talking about convicted offenders. I think everyone knew what we were talking about, but just to be correct I changed it.
    hmm, who should we protect more, children or child abusers?

    if i was a parent, i would want to know if the man down the road who is able to watch my children play outside, is a convicted paedo. children have no freedom today because parents are scared of them being attacked by these perverts.

    if a few vigilantes decide to beat these paedos to death, then that would be a shame (not). they shouldnt have molestered children in the first place
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    (Original post by Willbean)
    If the database was open to the public then yes, that is true justice. The database should also contain all up to date information such as whereabouts, occupation etc.

    It's to protect the public, not the other way around. To those agaisnt this, I love to hear your opinion after having your child sexually abused.

    It's such a horrific crime, I just can not wrap my head on how you could even do such thing.

    The public is never safe until monsters like child molesters are properly monitored. Hate it? Tough ****, shouldn't of molested a child.

    This is just my opinion though, I'm just waiting to be mobbed by Human right's supporters.

    To prevent the murder of innocents, pedophiles should live in isolated towns/villages. Not in the general public.
    or even better, put ankle tags on all these paedos, then if they go near a place where children are, eg: a park, school or stand for too long near a house where children live (electoral registers etc to determine the age of people in that house) an alarm should go off, police come and stick them back in prison where they belong.

    and for the worst offenders (no remorse, raped lots of children) maybe instead of an isolated village- could re-open auchwitz? seems a fitting punishment? or could put them to some use in medical testing labs (use them as guinea pigs to find cures for cancer etc)
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    (Original post by Cattty)
    if a few vigilantes decide to beat these paedos to death, then that would be a shame (not). they shouldnt have molestered children in the first place
    Isn't this a complete disregard for the law? If someone serves their time for an offence, it's surely not up to the general public to go and kill them.
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    (Original post by Converse Rocker)
    Isn't this a complete disregard for the law? If someone serves their time for an offence, it's surely not up to the general public to go and kill them?
    if they got a decent sentence then ok, but many paedos get 5 years or less. then they go out and molester another child.

    its shouldnt be the publics responsiblity to 'deal with them', but if they wanted to, im sure many people wouldnt object.
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    (Original post by Cattty)
    if they got a decent sentence then ok, but many paedos get 5 years or less. then they go out and molester another child.
    So instead of dealing with this issue, you'd rather vigilantes took the law into their own hands and commit murder?

    its shouldnt be the publics responsiblity to 'deal with them', but if they wanted to, im sure many people wouldnt object.
    Do you not accept that vigilantes could kill an innocent man though?

    Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate to your points. Don't take all of my posts as my own personal opinion, I'm just trying to see both sides. Cheers for contributing.
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    (Original post by Converse Rocker)
    So instead of dealing with this issue, you'd rather vigilantes took the law into their own hands and commit murder?



    Do you not accept that vigilantes could kill an innocent man though?

    Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate to your points. Don't take all of my posts as my own personal opinion, I'm just trying to see both sides. Cheers for contributing.
    lol its fine to see both sides of the argument.

    as i work with children, my sympathy lies with them not the abuser.

    if the database was for convicted paedos (with DNA or video evidence- not just someone accused without proof) then it would not be innocent people.
    i know you get a lot of mob mentality- eg, someone who looks slightly like a released offender. but if the vigilantes were going off the database, they would be attacking people who were guilty.
    it may also stop some of the vigilante attacks on innocent people, if they were not on the database, then they may be considered innocent so not get attacked.
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    (Original post by Cattty)
    lol its fine to see both sides of the argument.

    as i work with children, my sympathy lies with them not the abuser.
    That's fair enough.

    if the database was for convicted paedos (with DNA or video evidence- not just someone accused without proof) then it would not be innocent people.
    i know you get a lot of mob mentality- eg, someone who looks slightly like a released offender. but if the vigilantes were going off the database, they would be attacking people who were guilty.
    it may also stop some of the vigilante attacks on innocent people, if they were not on the database, then they may be considered innocent so not get attacked.
    This is true, the chances of mistaken identity aren't particularly high.

    Wouldn't you agree that it flies in the face of our legal system though? To condone violent vigilantism tells me that you have a problem with the legal system itself. Besides, regardless of how 'moral' or 'fair' you believe your actions to be, you are still a murderer if you take the law into your own hands and kill someone.

    These people are meant to have been punished already. For all the mob knows, the person has been working on rehabilitation in prison and is doing his best to avoid contact with children. Not saying that excuses their actions, but it could happen. Are vigilantes then justified to go and out and harass them or even kill them?
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    (Original post by Converse Rocker)
    That's fair enough.



    This is true, the chances of mistaken identity aren't particularly high.

    Wouldn't you agree that it flies in the face of our legal system though? To condone violent vigilantism tells me that you have a problem with the legal system itself. Besides, regardless of how 'moral' or 'fair' you believe your actions to be, you are still a murderer if you take the law into your own hands and kill someone.

    These people are meant to have been punished already. For all the mob knows, the person has been working on rehabilitation in prison and is doing his best to avoid contact with children. Not saying that excuses their actions, but it could happen. Are vigilantes then justified to go and out and harass them or even kill them?
    you make a good point, however i think the system needs to be changed. too many sex offenders re-offend.
    they have a rehabilitation system in some states in america where paedos cant be released until they do not have the desire or attraction towards children any more. they use brain sensors to detect arousal when watching videos of children (not child porn, just children playing in paddling pools etc). they can also volunteer to be castrated if they cannot get rid of this desire.

    if they had this in place, then they would not be a risk when released. but our systems 'rehabilitation' involves counselling, behaviour therapy etc. and many paedophiles (particularly those who groom children) are extremely intelligent and manipulative. it would not take much for these people to convince a parole board that they had been rehabilitated. these people are usually released once half their sentence has been carried out, rather than waiting until they are no longer a threat to the public.
 
 
 
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