If you had to kill the animals yourself, would you still eat meat? Watch

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(Original post by Hellz_Bellz!)
Alright... fair enough, it probably would get easier after the first time. But how many people do you think would actually do it the first time? I've asked some of my friends this question irl in the past and not many of them said they would. Only a couple who were raised on farms and have seen it first hand said they actually would.
It depends on the arbitrary moral line you have set yourself, and are trying to project as being at a level appropriate for the rest of society. You obviously have set the line at eating fish and not other animals for a reason, and the most common one pescetarians use to make that decision is the value judgement is that fish are somehow OK to kill but higher lifeforms (such as pigs, sheep and cows) aren't.

You have decided that you are fine with eating fish, so have told yourself that if you couldn't get fish from a supermarket, you'd be fine with going out and getting your own.

Millions of vegetarians and vegans the world over would be horrified.

Realistically speaking there isn't that much difference between clubbing a fish to death and sticking a knife in a pig - it's just that fish don't have cute little faces.
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She's almost as irritating as Tyrion, isn't she?
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Loool, and how do you think people coped before pre-packaged meat? Do you think cavemen looked into the eyes of wild boars and were so overcome by empathy they immediately dropped their flint knives? They probably didn't because that's probably historically inaccurate, but the point stands.
Holy sheet, your posts get funnier every day hahaha. Peeing myself over here.

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The difference being that cavemen's predecessors didn't have supermarkets. They weren't brought up with meat handed to them, quite literally, on a plate. They learnt to kill animals from young ages because it was the only option.
You've answered your own thread here m8, if we had to kill things ourselves again, we all would.
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Holy sheet, your posts get funnier every day hahaha. Peeing myself over here.
Oh you.:daydreaming:
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This reminds me of Minecraft.
But yes, I'd still eat them - but not all of the animals. Probably just the sea creatures.
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Yes I would, it's in my blood to do so.
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If I had to kill it that'd make me more inclined to eat it, I wouldn't want to just waste it.
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I would wait until they died naturally.
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It depends on the arbitrary moral line you have set yourself, and are trying to project as being at a level appropriate for the rest of society. You obviously have set the line at eating fish and not other animals for a reason, and the most common one pescetarians use to make that decision is the value judgement is that fish are somehow OK to kill but higher lifeforms (such as pigs, sheep and cows) aren't.

You have decided that you are fine with eating fish, so have told yourself that if you couldn't get fish from a supermarket, you'd be fine with going out and getting your own.

Millions of vegetarians and vegans the world over would be horrified.

Realistically speaking there isn't that much difference between clubbing a fish to death and sticking a knife in a pig - it's just that fish don't have cute little faces
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That's a bit like saying there isn't much difference between killing a fly and a stag-beetle. Pigs have a lot of fat and are, generally speaking, large, strong animals. And to kill a fish I would try and use the most humane way possible, (rendering the fish unconscious first), which wouldn't be to club it to death.

Also, if I thought like that I wouldn't have any qualms about killing larger fish, like tuna. But there is obviously a difference in difficulty between holding a sardine down and holding a massive salmon or something like that down.
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I would wait until they died naturally.
You might be waiting quite a while...
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I have done so many times before. You know how when you cook food yourself it tends to taste nicer? It's like that. You know how fresh that meat is and where it's been - it has a psychological effect on you.
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I have done so many times before. You know how when you cook food yourself it tends to taste nicer? It's like that. You know how fresh that meat is and where it's been - it has a psychological effect on you.
Just out of interest do you live on a farm? Or do you have animals in your back yard? How does it work? I can totally understand how it would be a sort of relief to know where it's from and everything!
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It depends on the arbitrary moral line you have set yourself, and are trying to project as being at a level appropriate for the rest of society. You obviously have set the line at eating fish and not other animals for a reason, and the most common one pescetarians use to make that decision is the value judgement is that fish are somehow OK to kill but higher lifeforms (such as pigs, sheep and cows) aren't.

You have decided that you are fine with eating fish, so have told yourself that if you couldn't get fish from a supermarket, you'd be fine with going out and getting your own.

Millions of vegetarians and vegans the world over would be horrified.

Realistically speaking there isn't that much difference between clubbing a fish to death and sticking a knife in a pig - it's just that fish don't have cute little faces.
This many times - there is no well defined line of what's right and what's wrong in terms of killing. It's just an arbitrary line that everyone decides themselves on what they're comfortable. Vegetarians decide that plants are low enough life forms to warrant killing and some stop at animals.
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Just out of interest do you live on a farm? Or do you have animals in your back yard? How does it work? I can totally understand how it would be a sort of relief to know where it's from and everything!
Nope central london born and raised - when my parents and I go bangladesh I have helped. People tend to gather their meat locally there.

It's a mix of both. Some animals in our gardens and lands and some we go out and specifically buy to slaughter at a later time.
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Yes
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Nope central london born and raised - when my parents and I go bangladesh I have helped. People tend to gather their meat locally there.

It's a mix of both. Some animals in our gardens and some we go out and specifically buy to slaughter at a later time.
Ah I see.
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I think I could probably kill it but I have severe doubts in my butchering skills.
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No just thinking about it makes me sick
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That's a bit like saying there isn't much difference between killing a fly and a stag-beetle. Pigs have a lot of fat and are, generally speaking, large, strong animals. And to kill a fish I would try and use the most humane way possible, (rendering the fish unconscious first), which wouldn't be to club it to death.

Also, if I thought like that I wouldn't have any qualms about killing larger fish, like tuna. But there is obviously a difference in difficulty between holding a sardine down and holding a massive salmon or something like that down.
Well, there isn't much difference at all in killing a fly and a stag beetle.

Don't try to pretend there is much difference between killing a fish and a pig, you know full well I was discussing the moral perspective as thats what your thread was asking with your question, "Do you think you could bring yourself to kill your own food..."

Now you're twisting and wriggling, quibbling over the semantic definitions of 'ability', taken now to mean 'physical ability', when all along it was pretty clear you were implying that humanity should have some sort of moral impediment to prevent them slaughtering cuddly animals with cute faces and sentience.

I'll cover physical ability anyway. Humans have evolved large brains to make a judgement on the best way to kill an animal depending on what it is. If it's a fish, they can just whack it on the side of a boat. If it's a small pig they have trapped in a pen, they can hold it down and stick a knife in it, if its a large wild pig with tusks, they can chase it on horseback and spear it, or bring it down with a rifle bullet.

Out of interest, what humane method do you use to render fish unconscious without the use of force?
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Not sure really, I would like to think that I could. So, I'm unsure... Saying 'yes I could' does not exactly mean a lot unless you actually try or do it.
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Honestly I probably wouldn't.
I'd miss meat though
I'd probably eat it if someone else killed it like my mum or something but myself? Nah I can barely kill a spider.
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