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    What harm is there in feeding your children a glass of sperm? #AtheistLogic #MoralityDenied #FreeWillDenied #JusticeForTheOppressedDenied. #WithoutGodYouDeny!
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    (Original post by ashraf549)
    What harm is there in feeding your children a glass of sperm? #AtheistLogic #MoralityDenied #FreeWillDenied #JusticeForTheOppressedDenied. #WithoutGodYouDeny!
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    All these people saying 'none' are being foolish.

    On average homosexuals cause about as much harm as heterosexuals, which is a non-zero quantity.

    Please, there's no call for heterophobia.

    As a big old queer, I approve of this message. I have a right to **** up just as much as anyone else.
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    Apart from the ones who enjoy BDSM, none.
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    (Original post by clh_hilary)
    Earthquakes, tornadoes, AIDS, etc.
    And, let's not forget the series finales of Dexter and HIMYM.
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    (Original post by the_lost_boy)
    And, let's not forget the series finales of Dexter and HIMYM.
    Or 'Marry The Night', 'Judas', 'Russian Roulette', 'Rockstar 101', 'Give Me All Your Luvin''.

    And Nazism, Fascism, catholicism. The death of Freddie Mercury.
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    (Original post by ashraf549)
    What harm is there in feeding your children a glass of sperm? #AtheistLogic #MoralityDenied #FreeWillDenied #JusticeForTheOppressedDenied. #WithoutGodYouDeny!
    What kind of f*cked up porn have you been watching?
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    (Original post by Zainabahlulbayt)
    HIV spreads very quickly among gay men. Infact, it used to be called 'gay' something acquired disease and renamed.
    'Gay cancer'.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    Thanks for the link, I see. Wow..I never knew the HIV rate among homosexual males was so high in the UK. Why is it like that? Surely they know about safe sex etc, its as if the rate is continually increasing.
    Because most HIV testing campaigns target homosexuals. Hardly any heterosexual tests and thus it's impossible for one to be tested positive and be included in the statistics.
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    (Original post by clh_hilary)
    Or 'Marry The Night', 'Judas', 'Russian Roulette', 'Rockstar 101', 'Give Me All Your Luvin''.

    And Nazism, Fascism, catholicism. The death of Freddie Mercury.
    And your outrageous telephone charges? That was us, making long distance calls to our girlfriends *zsnap* about Project Runway.
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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...record-numbers

    "One in 20 gay men and men who occasionally have sex with men are HIV positive in the UK – and in London, the ratio is as high as one in 12."

    Considering other reasons they don't let you give blood, like going to dangerous countries, this is definitely reason enough to not give it. Science, not prejudice.
    A one-year ban is reasonable, but the permanent ban which has been lived but still on in many other countries is not.

    What they should go against are those who do not have safe sex.
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    (Original post by Blackacre)
    I'm really not an expert on this, but I think it's traditionally been justified on the basis of risk/consequences.

    Whilst it is true that all blood is tested, those tests aren't 100% effective. It's better to turn away a few "clear" LGBTQ men than to have someone who's HIV positive donate and their sample to have a false negative result (i.e. the virus is undetected). If this were to happen, a recipient of a blood transfusion could be infected with HIV - and whilst progress has been made in the fight against HIV/AIDS, it's still preferable not to have it.

    Of course, all of this relies on the assumption that the HIV rate is significantly higher in the MSM community. I have no idea whether this is the case. This whole area is pretty controversial.
    It's 100%, it's still technically just 99.99999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999999999999999999% because you can never be too sure.

    But they can be tested twice, which will make the result safer than having heterosexual tested only once, especially when they do not expect them to engage only in safe sex.

    Also, 'LGBTQ men'. Since when are lesbians men? They also have the lowest rate for everything among all groups.
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    (Original post by alis-volatpropriis)
    That's exactly what I was thinking. Its very stupid, because heterosexual people that engage in anal sex still have the same risks of contracting HIV and STDs. Even though the ban was lifted in 2011, MSM people still have to wait a year.. all the "donate blood" advertisements are very misleading they say everyone can donate blood at anytime they never specify that in their campaigns.
    Only in the sense that a homosexual person and a heterosexual person receiving anal sex from a (in this argument he'd have to be bisexual) man with HIV would each have just as much chance of contracting the virus from him.

    It is still a fact that HIV has a significantly higher prevalence in the gay community than in the straight community.
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    (Original post by Blackacre)
    I'm really not an expert on this, but I think it's traditionally been justified on the basis of risk/consequences.

    Whilst it is true that all blood is tested, those tests aren't 100% effective. It's better to turn away a few "clear" LGBTQ men than to have someone who's HIV positive donate and their sample to have a false negative result (i.e. the virus is undetected). If this were to happen, a recipient of a blood transfusion could be infected with HIV - and whilst progress has been made in the fight against HIV/AIDS, it's still preferable not to have it.

    Of course, all of this relies on the assumption that the HIV rate is significantly higher in the MSM community. I have no idea whether this is the case. This whole area is pretty controversial.
    Statistics say that this is the case, and these statistics are based on the members of the population who have been diagnosed with HIV. Of course there are people who remain undiagnosed, but a quick google about the stats shows that a significant proportion of those infected are indeed gay men.

    Some people might call it propoganda or scare-mongering, but everyone - gay or straight - should be aware of the risks and how to prevent them. Practise safe sex and the stats don't really matter.
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    (Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
    I agree with this, but I can also understand why homosexuality would have been discouraged in biblical times. Back then, I'm guessing the population was still relatively small and needed to grow, and so same sex relations would have conflicted with the need for everyone to breed as much as possible. But now we obviously have the opposite problem of overpopulation, therefore I see homosexuality as a benign thing in modern times and homophobia as rather pointless as we have other bigger things to worry about in this world.
    Most other societies in the world at its time condone or were apathetic about homosexuality.
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    A large homosexual population can be partly responsible for less babies being born and therefore a society in which a large elderly population has to be financed by a smaller workforce.
    A large priest population can be partly responsible for fewer babies being born and therefore a society in which a large elderly population has to be financed by a smaller workforce.

    Oh and, they don't pay taxes either.
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    (Original post by Musie Suzie)
    Statistics say that this is the case, and these statistics are based on the members of the population who have been diagnosed with HIV. Of course there are people who remain undiagnosed, but a quick google about the stats shows that a significant proportion of those infected are indeed gay men.

    Some people might call it propoganda or scare-mongering, but everyone - gay or straight - should be aware of the risks and how to prevent them. Practise safe sex and the stats don't really matter.
    Because at the same time more homosexuals are tested than heterosexuals proportionally.
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    (Original post by Musie Suzie)
    Only in the sense that a homosexual person and a heterosexual person receiving anal sex from a (in this argument he'd have to be bisexual) man with HIV would each have just as much chance of contracting the virus from him.

    It is still a fact that HIV has a significantly higher prevalence in the gay community than in the straight community.
    The chance of anyone with any sexual orientation contacting HIV is the same. Just because s/he is of a certain orientation does not mean s/he will have a particular type of sex with a particular type of person.

    The only way you can phrase it is that 'it has a higher possibility of having a man with HIV if you are to choose one person from the male gay population and one from the male straight population'.
 
 
 
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