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B686 – British Bill of Rights 2014 Watch

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    (Original post by Will95206)
    Nay.

    Just scanned over it and I have an issue with your right to marriage 'man and woman' only... Such sort of inherent discrimination should not be implicit in the Bill of Rights.
    I don't think he meant that. Perhaps the wording was a little rushed though.
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    No, on the ground that it leaves loopholes for legitimation if forced labour. Also, no person should be denied education is insufficient. It must be that the state is entitled to provide free universal education at any stage, to all citizens. The real question is,I think, do we need a constitution?
    Guaranteeing every citizen the right to free universal education, meritocracy, freedom of speech, workers protection , a living wage, etc...
    Above all, how can every country has its own thing which it calls human rights when all men are equal. The must be a global consensus.
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    Unnecessary. Nay.
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    No. I'm going to have a proper read over it tomorrow when I'm not exhausted but the numerous problems already highlighted by other members are already sending up red flags in my mind but as it stands it's a no.
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    Can't you just repeal the bad parts of the HRA rather than bring in a whole new bill to codify our rights? For the most part, it does a great job and I don't really like codifying rights when it means that something we've not thought about could get missed. Keep what we have right now, adjust things like the right to a family life, and then you'll probably end up with something that's near perfect.
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    Good idea, Jarred, but its implementation into UK law means the changes need to be agreed upon by all signatory members to the HR Convention. Hence why it's easier to copy and paste the bill but eliminate parts we dislike.
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    Hear hear Jarred.
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    There's no reason to to replace ECHR/UNCHR - they work perfectly fine already!
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    (Original post by Mattvr)
    There's no reason to to replace EUCHR/UNCHR - they work perfectly fine already!
    One slight correction - it's ECHR. Don't help spread the myth that it's anything to do with the EU!
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    (Original post by O133)
    One slight correction - it's ECHR. Don't help spread the myth that it's anything to do with the EU!
    Typo error! Thank you for drawing attention to it - it's been corrected now.
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    (Original post by This Is Matt)
    You misread the bill. "Men and women have the right to marry" - That doesn't mean only men and women can marry each other. It means both sexes have the right to marry whoever. The wording is exact form the HRA1998.
    Thanks for clarifying this. I was interpreting it this way but was unsure of this after reading the comments.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Quite the opposite, abortion should be outlawed bar certain cases where the child is disabled.
    So you mean:
    a. if the woman's life is endangered, abortion should still be illegal?
    b. if both would die (doesn't necessarily mean the infant has a disability), abortion should still be illegal?
    c. if the woman was raped, even when she is 8, abortion should still be illegal?

    But if the woman for whatever reason believes that the infant will be a transgender (which is still considered a disability), she should be able to abort it?
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    This is in cessation.
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    Division! Clear the lobbies!
 
 
 
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