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    (Original post by Sic semper erat)
    Here we go, another Muhammadan coming to the rescue. Go whine about Kashmir, Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people. Your so called "Palestinians" are an invented people from the 70s, a bunch of Jordanians and Egyptians.
    LOL ok
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    You know as a country we created Israel, right?
    shhhhhhhhhh keep this quiet we are the reason of a lot of the worlds problems that now have come up like Israel and India Pakistan
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    As an Indian I love Jews and I support Israel for taking care of the terrorists in Gaza
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    I have no problem with Jews they are decent people unlike some..
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    (Original post by Rakislk)
    I have no problem with Jews they are decent people unlike some..
    Unlike who? I'm interested.
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    Redefine the word "Semite", because if you knew what it truly meant you would have known that Semites are not just Jews.
    And I'm not "Anti-Semitic" towards Jews.
    I'm Anti-war crimes, Anti-Genocide, Anti- Ethnic cleansing and Anti-Israel
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    Look at Sweden. The jews are persecuted by muslims in the open and they cannot walk safely in the streets.

    The same muslims are migrating now in large numbers from Sweden to the UK for jobs. Came across many of these middle east people with open anti-semetic views. Watch out jews..
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    Judaism is a religion but Jewry is also kind of like a nationhood that goes beyond national distinctions.

    They tend to rise to the top in things and have influence.

    In my realisation there is no equivalence between the western liberal gentile and the Jew. For instance, I was thinking about doing a PhD and becoming an academic. But I've realised who is destined to be the academic, and that no gentile with a PhD in the humanities will be an academic or be seen as one. For some reason, the decree of fate or a difference in culture, certain professions are dominated by the Jews.

    I recommend 'you Gentiles' (can be read online through a google search) by a Jewish gentleman who explains, in an enlightening way, what he perceives to be a difference in mode of life between Jews and non-Jews, which goes deeper than the divide such as Christian/Jew, or Buddhist/Jew.
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    You say the Jewish people as if it is a race. It states clearly in the religion that you have to follow the religion to be a Jew. There is no such thing as an Atheist Jew. Antisemitism is not equivalent to racism.
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    It's not today, at least not in England. I'm very interested in anti-Semitism as a phenomena over centuries, was it just tradition? Why then did Voltaire express so many criticisms of the Jews? We can all agree that the crimes commited by the Nazis are just that, crimes, but how did an entire nation come to dislike this group of people? Was it because of the Nazis, the history of the Jewish people, a minority of Jewish scapegoats, or tradition?
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    could be a number of reasons.
    I personally never got the whole hating the jews thing.

    but I think theres a few issues.

    1. they're racist: theres a lot of stuff to do with blood, race and racial purity with them.
    the whole thing about things being kosher and that if someone non jewish makes you food you cannot eat it because its considered "unclean" is pretty much like a caste system. except the caste system is anyone that isnt jewish is dirty.

    2. they think they are better than everyone else: basically they consider themselves "the chosen people". so they essentially think they are racially superior because uno... they're gods faves.

    now of course this isnt the opinion of all jewish people. but its built into the ideology of their religion.


    3. christians resent them cause of the whole killing jesus and they wanted to distinguish themselves as different from jews.

    4. abraham had his sons isaac and ishmael. he kept isaac and banished ishmael to the desert. arabs are descendent from ishmael and jews are descendent from isaac. so basically arabs hate jews because they were daddies faves and they got sent away. islam is to arabs what judaism is to jews. so islam has transferred all the classic hate arabs have for jews into a nice transportable ideology that spreads beyond the arab ethnicity.

    5. jews have a whole culture based on study of scripture and generally avoiding violence. anyone from a war torn country is aware of the devastating effect it has for family units, education and business. so jews have often avoided this. the tradition of study has leant itself well to them studying non jewish scripture such as say, law or medicine. which are two things jewish people are currently known for. they have very strong family units that extend to a strong community. this has lead to great success for them. however due to the antagonism they face because of all the previous 4 points jews have often found themselves discriminated against. this discrimination has lead to an even more close and supportive community. this has lead people to think there jews are often plotting or forming some secret society that extends well beyond the walls of what ever city they inhabit. this paranoia has lead to them being further attacked. the more they have been attacked the more they have tried to hide their jewishness, adding to the stereotype that they are sneaky and up to something in some sort of jewish conspiracy type of way.

    their success has often been attacked by governments and they have resorted to more clever ways of making money. such as money lending. however as you can imagine money lending. which while making them successful was often at the expense of the non jewish poor. this has lead to a tradition of the poor hating jews. the jews have also hate non jews due to they oppression they have faced. think about how many pakistanis hate westerners because of the discrimination they have faced.

    i remember asking an old women once about why jews were so hated in germany. and apparently there was a cliche stereotype of the rich jewish business man who would go around having sex with non jewish girls smittin by their success and charm. then with the young girl pregnant single and still as poor as ever in a society with no benefits system or social support they would often find themselves struggling to survive. they were aslo, as you can imagine, rejected by the communities for getting with a jew in the first place and then being silly enough to be sexual used by one.

    so apparently that was a stereotype going round in the 1930's.


    anyway so i think all those above reasons have lead to why jews are so hyped about.

    but to be honest i really think its all quite childish.

    most people quite like jews. in fact a recent study in america showed most people actually quite like jewish people.

    i think since the israel palestine conflict a lot of people dislike israel and any jews that support it.

    a lot of people will have ill feeling towards jews due to the whole israel committing genocide on palestinians in the same way that they have ill feeling towards germany due to the whole genocide on jews, gypsies, gays and who ever else.

    another reason people might not like jews is because the the hasidic jews look weird. and anyone that dresses like a 17th century russian in a communal mass is gonna stick out as being a bit weird. i've even heard jewish people say they feel uncomfortable with the hasidim.

    but yea various versins of christianity, islam plus racist groups and much of the black american community (due to the nation of islam) along with conspiracy nuts seem to be the prime types that hate jews.

    i mean conspiracy nuts tend to make up conspiracies to make sense of things they don't understand.

    so like jews being successful must be due to some kind of mass plot.

    or that because they don't know how politics or the media works they just scream illuminati.

    or because they don't understand how technology or medicine works they scream "witch" and start burning people.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    You have to ask why they have historically been at the brunt of bigoted racists. Why the Jews could not settle anywhere.
    That is ****ing outrageous anti-semitism. It's basically victim-blaming with many of the same arguments that were used by the Nazis.

    Do you want to apply the same logic to gay people? i.e. "Why is it gay people have been criminalised by so many societies? Why do they seem unable to live in and get along in societies generally? It must be something wrong with them"
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    why is society so islamaphobic?
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    (Original post by Mirouko)
    India is not anti Semitic we support Israel.
    No you don't, you buy arms from Russia.
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    (Original post by young_guns)
    That is ****ing outrageous anti-semitism. It's basically victim-blaming with many of the same arguments that were used by the Nazis.

    Do you want to apply the same logic to gay people? i.e. "Why is it gay people have been criminalised by so many societies? Why do they seem unable to live in and get along in societies generally? It must be something wrong with them"
    You're quite intolerant of anyone capable of free thought. Why can't we ask that question? It's a legitimate question, it is a historical question. Is that a prejudice? I'm not so sure it is.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    You're quite intolerant of anyone capable of free thought. Why can't we ask that question? It's a legitimate question, it is a historical question. Is that a prejudice? I'm not so sure it is.
    So anyone who disagrees with you is "intolerant of free thought"?

    I'm not saying you can't ask the question, I'm merely saying you shouldn't be surprised when people conclude you have National Socialist tendencies if you do.

    And yes, it is prejudiced beyond belief
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    (Original post by young_guns)
    So anyone who disagrees with you is "intolerant of free thought"?

    I'm not saying you can't ask the question, I'm merely saying you shouldn't be surprised when people conclude you have National Socialist tendencies if you do.

    And yes, it is prejudiced beyond belief
    What's the problem with national socialism?
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    (Original post by 6Jesus6Christ6)
    What's the problem with national socialism?
    What, you mean apart from the genocide of six million Jews, the murder of millions of others and it provoking a world war that killed 60 million and led to the utter devastation of Europe?

    Apart from the fact it is based on woo-woo new age pseudo-scientific crap about Aryan tribes and an ancient Germanic race spirit? Or the plans to take over the world and murder not just anyone who stood in their way, but anyone who had the temerity to be born a particular ethnicity? Or the intention to feudalise the slavs and create a neo-Teutonic state between Poland and the Urals where SS officers would become a new knightly landed class?

    If you can't see how utterly insane it was, how damaging it was, how many died and even how it led to the destruction of Germany itself, then you really can't be helped.
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    (Original post by Mick.w)
    1. they're racist
    So.... you're saying all Jews are racist?

    theres a lot of stuff to do with blood, race and racial purity with them.
    Err, no. What you do see is that Jewish people often tend to marry other Jewish people. Though if you look at the Jewish population in America or Britain, there are actually quite high rates of intermarriage, and reform Judaism quite happily accepts people who weren't born as Jews into the religion.

    But even so, why the judgment particularly on Jews for marrying their own kind? That is actually what happens in the vast majority of the world, most people are quite conservative like that. Interesting that you particularly single out Jews, when that is actually quite common in China, or Russia, or parts of Africa. Why is that?

    the whole thing about things being kosher and that if someone non jewish makes you food you cannot eat it because its considered "unclean" is pretty much like a caste system.
    It has nothing to do with being non Jewish and everything to do with being observant of Jewish laws on food preparation. If a non-Jew observes the rules then they can handle food that is kosher

    except the caste system is anyone that isnt jewish is dirty.
    You are confused. You clearly do not understand how kosher works. Have you been getting your information about Judaism from Stormfront?

    2. they think they are better than everyone else: basically they consider themselves "the chosen people". so they essentially think they are racially superior because uno... they're gods faves.
    They don't think they're better than everyone else. You do realise that this religion was started 3000 years ago, there's nothing singularly objectionable about Jewish people believing their tribe has a special relationship with god, pretty much every group in history believed that.

    To be honest, you have some pretty anti-semitic whether that's conscious or not. Where do you live in Britain? If you're close to London, very happy to take you along to a synagogue to experience the saturday morning service, meet some Jewish people, experience the culture.

    People's views often change when they have personal experience of the thing they criticise
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    (Original post by Datch)
    In my opinion it's because in recent modern times, Jews attracted envy for being successful in business, science, medicine etc.., the disproportionate number of Jews in these fields attracted resentment.

    In more recent times, the Jewish state of Israel has attracted criticism because of the way the Muslim minority is treated. many of those who criticise Israel though would say that it is Israel they disapprove of, not Jews. Some of them are probably sincere in this view, though anti Semitism has such a long history, one suspects that the Muslims are not the main reason at least some of those people criticise Israel.

    The Jewish people for ever have been the Brunt of Bigoted Racists who only want to be left alone in Peace
    Yes, yes and yes. I think often people will poke fun at jews because they have the notion that, from racial stereotyping, they aren't risking any consequence from their victims.
 
 
 
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