B726 - Foreign Aid Bill 2014 Watch

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So its fine that the elderly die over here because they cannot afford heating or find a space in an NHS hospital?

That makes it all ok because other people are poorer?

Great logic. So i can't say that certain things make me sad because there will always be someone who is sadder than i am?
We mustn't neglect our duty to ensure a sufficient level of public spending here but we also mustn't neglect our duties to reduce poverty elsewhere.
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So its fine that the elderly die over here because they cannot afford heating or find a space in an NHS hospital?

That makes it all ok because other people are poorer?

Great logic. So i can't say that certain things make me sad because there will always be someone who is sadder than i am?
The money going on foreign aid is only 1.5% of government expenditure. Of course tackling these problems you mention is a priority, but it's not an either-or situation; we can shuffle the budget to make sure we tackle both domestic issues and meet our international aid obligations. It just requires a wider economic plan - possibly involving increasing government income (through cracking down on tax avoidance, ensuring the top earners pay a greater proportion of tax, and so on). Or reducing defence spending - scrapping Trident alone would give us £1-3bn per year.
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The money going on foreign aid is only 1.5% of government expenditure. Of course tackling these problems you mention is a priority, but it's not an either-or situation; we can shuffle the budget to make sure we tackle both domestic issues and meet our international aid obligations. It just requires a wider economic plan - possibly involving increasing government income (through cracking down on tax avoidance, ensuring the top earners pay a greater proportion of tax, and so on).
You are all talk and no action.

Will the Government produce any meaningful action this term?

Or will it focus on coffins, beavers, songs and other delightful things?
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We mustn't neglect our duty to ensure a sufficient level of public spending here but we also mustn't neglect our duties to reduce poverty elsewhere.
UKIP are the only party attempting to help the British people. But you continue to support the Santa Clause motion, it is much mire important...
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UKIP are the only party attempting to help the British people. But you continue to support the Santa Clause motion, it is much mire important...
I didn't write the motion. Whether I support it or not wouldn't have any effect on whether it is there.
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The United Kingdom is the 6th richest country in the entire world. It's my belief that we don't have to absolve ourselves of our international responsibilities in order to provide for our citizens. There's a lot of reasons people are suffering in this country - foreign aid spending really isn't one of them.
The United Kingdom could save billions of pounds every year to spend on its own people. The Government is not attempting to help the British people at all; i'm sure they are grateful that you changed their national anthem for them though...
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You are all talk and no action.

Will the Government produce any meaningful action this term?

Or will it focus on coffins, beavers, songs and other delightful things?
Much of what we're doing is carrying on the groundwork established during the last Parliament. But yes, there will be meaningful action.
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I didn't write the motion. Whether I support it or not wouldn't have any effect on whether it is there.
Government MP = Government.
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Much of what we're doing is carrying on the groundwork established during the last Parliament. But yes, there will be meaningful action.
You haven't done anything meaningful at all, just joke after joke.
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The United Kingdom could save billions of pounds every year to spend on its own people. The Government is not attempting to help the British people at all; i'm sure they are grateful that you changed their national anthem for them though...
And the other 98.5% of Government expenditure is just burnt?
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And the other 98.5% of Government expenditure is just burnt?
I'd love for you to, y'ah know, write something about it. Maybe a bill.

UKIP are saving 1.5%. The government haven't saved anything at all.
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UKIP have actually produced worthwhile legislation this year, where as the government have struggled with their legislation!

I would have expected better of a large coalition!
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Hear Hear!

Perhaps the government could try and produce some worthwhile legislation this term. You can be sure that we in UKIP will continue to put British interests first, not something the government could ever say.
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At the cost of our poor and elderly. The left are shunning the most needy in the country by denying them this massive saving of billions of pounds every year.

It is a shame the champagne socialist government cannot see the pain and toil the working class in Britain go through; all the government care about is their image to everyone else: 'Hey, look at us, we help other countries before our own'.
It's not a case of paying for the elderly OR foreign aid, that large tax cut for wealthy businessmen on the other hand.
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Hear Hear!

Perhaps the government could try and produce some worthwhile legislation this term. You can be sure that we in UKIP will continue to put British interests first, not something the government could ever say.
Putting British interests first and allowing a tiny fraction of public spending to go towards the welfare of legions of much more desperate people than are found in these isles are not mutually exclusive things.

I am frankly amused by the irony of your choice of avatar. Queen Elizabeth would be revolted by your selfishness.
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Putting British interests first and allowing a tiny fraction of public spending to go towards the welfare of legions of much more desperate people than are found in these isles are not mutually exclusive things.

I am frankly amused by the irony of your choice of avatar. Queen Elizabeth would be revolted by your selfishness.
You know her well presumably?

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£7bn is not enough in my humble opinion; £11bn seems appropriate, if spent in the right places.

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Many of the impoverished here would be considered well off in many of the destination countries for international aid.
I wish I was considered well off among the group of Chinese I was with today, I felt like such a tramp :sad:
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