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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    Another policewoman dead too.
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    (Original post by SamKeene)
    Sorry, but if you look at the propaganda in the Arab world from Imams and publications there is glorification of a 'Muslim Crusade' against the west. They take hate crimes in the west and use it to further their agenda.
    so?
    so they won't be succsesful with their agenda otherwise? they intend to win a demographic and cultural victory.
    they do not want a mass escalation of violence resulting in war. that would likely be the end of islam's prospects in europe.

    it all dying down until the next terrorist attack and it gradually becoming the norm and islam being feared is what they want as it furthers their agenda of islam gradually becoming a major power within europe.
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    (Original post by PopaPork)
    'Three blank grenades'
    Whats your point? Is this another one of your attempts at justifying terrorism?
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    Well at least nobody seems to have actually been hurt yet, thats something.
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    (Original post by khanpatel321)
    People forget easily that these types of attacks happen to Muslims also.

    I mean just last month the shooting in Peshawar which killed 142 people, 132 were children.

    Is it logical for the people of Pakistan to go out and bomb mosques etc, in protest of these terrorists?
    that was an attack by the taliban.

    however the taliban are at war and all is fair and love in war. the pakistani military had hit the taliban very hard before the school attack and naturally the taliban hit the military where it hurt the most.
    it was a powerful act of revenge.

    it was very tragic but it is the least that the military could expect.
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    (Original post by n00)
    Whats your point? Is this another one of your attempts at justifying terrorism?
    No it's called a fact

    3 Blank grenades were thrown. No one knows by who but 3 blank grenades were thrown.

    How many hurt = 0
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    (Original post by n00)
    Why is this being described as anti muslim attacks rather than terrorist attacks?
    Because it's the reaction (wrongly IMO) to a terrorist attack

    Cartoons should be the measured response
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    (Original post by PopaPork)
    Because it's the reaction (wrongly IMO) to a terrorist attack
    Which itself is a terrorist attack. The Charlie Hebdo attack was a reaction to a cartoon, should we call that an anti cartoonist attack?
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    (Original post by tibis iii)
    so?
    so they won't be succsesful with their agenda otherwise? they intend to win a demographic and cultural victory.
    they do not want a mass escalation of violence resulting in war. that would likely be the end of islam's prospects in europe.

    it all dying down until the next terrorist attack and it gradually becoming the norm and islam being feared is what they want as it furthers their agenda of islam gradually becoming a major power within europe.
    Perhaps, I'm just highlighting that the influentially forces which actually matter in the Arab world do want a holy war, not a slow peaceful cultural victory.

    And its often these people who influence the moderates and others.

    Most Germans were peaceful, but it was the Nazi's who drove the forces which ended in the deaths of 60 million people, the peaceful majority didn't matter. Most Russians were peaceful, but they managed to kill 20 million people, the peaceful majority didn't matter. Most Chinese were peaceful, but they managed to kill 70 million people, the peaceful majority didn't matter. Same with Japan, most Japanese were peaceful, but it didn't stop the army from gunning its way through south east Asia killing 12 million people, the peaceful majority didn't matter.

    Same with Islam, it's the 15-25% radicals who want a holy war which matter, not the rest which quietly hope that Europe will peacefully be annexed culturally and demographically. Which is why I raised the point originally. It's this group which needs our focus.

    (Original post by PopaPork)
    Because it's the reaction (wrongly IMO) to a terrorist attack

    Cartoons should be the measured response
    Honestly you can class the reactionary attacks as terrorism. They are attacks on the civilian population of France to further a political (anti-Islam) goal.
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    (Original post by SamKeene)
    This is expected and is exactly what many of the Muslim world want. A war between Islam and the Heretics.

    When news of the Paris attack reached the Arab world, there were reports of celebrations, endorsements by politicians and positive articles in papers.

    It's a shame we are giving these barbarians what they want my responding with violence.
    You're average moderate Muslim doesn't want to be attacked on the streets or feel unsafe in public
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    (Original post by n00)
    Which itself is a terrorist attack. The Charlie Hebdo attack was a reaction to a cartoon, should we call that an anti cartoonist attack?
    So throwing something is a terrorist attack

    have you reported this to Tell MAMA?
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    You're average moderate Muslim doesn't want to be attacked on the streets or feel unsafe in public
    No, but they are in a small and endangered minority compared to those overseas who greatly outnumber them.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    You're average moderate Muslim doesn't want to be attacked on the streets or feel unsafe in public
    Given that if this is the case it will most likely be other muslims doing the attacking what do you except people to do?
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    (Original post by SamKeene)
    Honestly you can class the reactionary attacks as terrorism. They are attacks on the civilian population of France to further a political (anti-Islam) goal.
    Only if you stretch the term really really looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
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    (Original post by PopaPork)
    Given that if this is the case it will most likely be other muslims doing the attacking what do you except people to do?
    To not taint all Muslims with the same brush
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    (Original post by PopaPork)
    Only if you stretch the term really really looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
    Not really. The only real argument you could make is that a reactionary attack is sufficiently different enough from a planned attack like in Paris - and that difference is enough to call on terrorism and the other not.

    I disagree with the above however.

    While Islam has a massive monopoly on terrorism in the Arab world and the west, it doesn't hold all of it.
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    (Original post by PopaPork)
    So throwing something is a terrorist attack
    Err yeah throwing grenades at the mosque is quite clearly a terrorist attack.

    Come on TSR isn't it about time you started banning these *****.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    To not taint all Muslims with the same brush
    I don't see that happening quite the oposite in fact I see people going out of their way to say 'it ain't so'

    But is that all you expect people to do about muslims murdering people with a gay abandon? (the indecent yesterday is tiny in comparison to the muslims murdered by their fellow brothers in the same day)

    Do you not care about other muslims?

    Is all you care about yourself?

    So I ask again

    what do you except people to do?
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    (Original post by n00)
    Err yeah throwing grenades at the mosque is quite clearly a terrorist attack.

    Come on TSR isn't it about time you started banning these *****.
    Blank grenades:rolleyes:

    No one was hurt were they?
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    (Original post by SamKeene)
    Not really. The only real argument you could make is that a reactionary attack is sufficiently different enough from a planned attack like in Paris - and that difference is enough to call on terrorism and the other not.

    I disagree with the above however.

    While Islam has a massive monopoly on terrorism in the Arab world and the west, it doesn't hold all of it.
    No really yes really:rolleyes:
 
 
 
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