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    (Original post by Swanbow)
    ditto.

    It is far from perfect, but what state is? I find it bewildering that so many on the left blindly support Hamas.
    Disliking Israel's political behaviour does not imply liking Hamas' political behaviour.
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    (Original post by TorpidPhil)
    Disliking Israel's political behaviour does not imply liking Hamas' political behaviour.
    Obviously.

    But so many ignore the atrocities and horrible policies of Hamas and instead just lay into Israel.
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    Why would anyone dislike Iran ?

    Most people are indifferent to it.

    You must think we are fools that believe Iran is a wicked country that wants to kill poor innocent Israelis
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    Britons loathe Israel more than Iran because 99% of Britons know nothing about Israel and probably couldn't locate it on a map.
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    (Original post by Skip_Snip)
    Israel is the only civilised place in the middle east, and the poor sods are surrounded by people who hate them...
    The culture secretary, Sajid Javid, agrees with you there. Surprising given that he is of Pakistani origin.
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    it is a shame they did not ask me. i think Israel is a brilliant country and is still a wonderful place to live despite the attempts of envious neighbours to destroy her.

    :israel:
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    (Original post by SmallDuck)
    The culture secretary, Sajid Javid, agrees with you there. Surprising given that he is of Pakistani origin.
    Pakistan isn't part of the Arabic wossname.
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    Don't get the hate against Israel,they are surrounded by nations who want to wipe them off the map?
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    I think the reason there is more active criticism of Israel than Iran over here is because Israel is one of our allies, and Iran isn't. So Iran seems less of "our problem" because we aren't selling them arms.

    The Iranian government is far more internally repressive than Israel.

    Iran and Israel are in similar positions in that they don't quite fit in with their neighbours and are encircled by enemies. They have common enemies in the Arab states and Sunni militant groups, however they are obviously enemies as Iran doesn't recognise the state of Israel and supports the Palestinian cause.

    Modern Iran isn't an expansionist military threat to the region in the way that Saddam was, and Iran suffered more from Saddam's ambitions than anybody else, being dragged in to an 8 year war with Saddam enjoying a supply of Western arms funded by loans from his Arab neighbours and making liberal use of chemical weapons against Iranian troops so a lot of Iranian war veterans are disabled today.

    However Iran is disruptive force in the region as it supports groups that destabilise other regimes, eg Hezbollah, also they backed Shia forces that were against Saddam in Iraq and Farsi speaking forces that were fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. Iran is a large recipient of inward refugees from other oppressive regimes in the area so there was always a circulation of angry repressed Iraqis and Afghans that Iran would back to fight against hostile neighbouring regimes. Whilst Saddam and the Taliban were also ultimately our enemies (after originally we tried to be on good terms with them) these are now unstable states with power vacuums and Iranian interference backing their own favoured groups is destabilising.

    There are a lot more educated and politically active people in Iran than the other countries around, it's not a nation where people are brainwashed and the religious regime has a tenuous grip on power. I think in a lot of ways Iran is more advanced than its neighbours, and it provides some hope if its governments reform over time. Islamic State is a massive threat to Iran and I think if you were to get IS having serious influence in Iraq, Iran would have to do something.
 
 
 
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