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    Conservatives won? Well we'll have no rights, every single working class person will be killed over the next 5 years, children will have their clothes stolen off their backs and the NHS will be a smouldering crater of radioactive dust....

    Come on people.... could people actually use common sense for once and stop getting involved in the facebookesque hysteria.
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    (Original post by Rinsed)
    The point of a union is to represent their members, not bind them into petty conflicts they don't want to be a part of. It's intimidation pure and simple.
    I know that's their function, but rather ironically unions themselves can draw people into petty conflicts they don't want to be a part of. :lol:

    I personally think unions rely on the whole safety in numbers idea, which fails being legitimate the second they fail to achieve majority support within the workforce, which is increasingly common these days.
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    (Original post by StarvingAutist)
    Given that the Tories want to scrap the Human Rights Act and that we may no longer be under the ECHR in two years, what rights will we have? Is this not a terrifying prospect?
    Our rights are protected by the common law. The judges have made it quite clear that, even if the absence of legislation, the courts will continue to enforce human rights.

    Your fears are unfounded.
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    They will implement a 40% rule for strikes.
    Why then is their own government legitimate, given that only 24.6% of those registered to vote (let alone eligible to vote) voted for it?
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    Our rights are protected by the common law. The judges have made it quite clear that, even if the absence of legislation, the courts will continue to enforce human rights.

    Your fears are unfounded.
    So why bother to repeal the legislation then? Either it's changing something, in which case what, or it's window dressing, in which case why are they holding voters in contempt?

    Straight answer please.
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    (Original post by Rinsed)
    I think it's worth pointing out strikes enjoy specific legal protection. Anyone can not turn up to work, you're not going to be prosecuted, just don't expect to still have a job afterwards. If it's a legal strike, you can't be disciplined. Given that they enjoy special protection, it is not unreasonable to introduce some caveats on when it can be invoked.
    Yes but it will be impossible to get a strike passed as legal from now on. So pretty irrelevant that they have special protection.
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    (Original post by The two eds)
    No, hopefully they put through chucka, that would be perfect.
    Burnham has the union backing. It will be Burnham.

    Also you realise chuka is further right than Burnham?
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Burnham has the union backing. It will be Burnham.

    Also you realise chuka is further right than Burnham?
    We need Chuka as the leader because hopefully it will push the Labour supporters in the North leaning to UKIP, over to UKIP and as a result leave a purer Labour party. We need the party to move further left towards communism so we can chuck out any centre and centre right voters. The Labour party must be purified.
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    (Original post by The two eds)
    We need Chuka as the leader because hopefully it will push the Labour supporters in the North leaning to UKIP, over to UKIP and as a result leave a purer Labour party. We need the party to move further left towards communism so we can chuck out any centre and centre right voters. The Labour party must be purified.
    Yaaay let's turn labour into a fringe party that is totally unelectible!!!!

    Sounds like a plan...not

    I think Green is more your thing than Labour love.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Yaaay let's turn labour into a fringe party that is totally unelectible!!!!

    Sounds like a plan...not

    I think Green is more your thing than Labour love.
    You sound like someone who values seats and votes over principles and ideals. You are probably the type of person who values profit over people's lives or industrial actions over the environment. What happened to having pride in your values? Labour should move to the left in the territory and values they were founded upon. It should not sacrifice its values for votes.

    This is why we need Chuka as a leader because while you want UKIP supporters in Labour, he does not and he will be successful in removing say 40 % of the Labour vote up north into UKIPs hands. It will be a purer Labour that prides itself on values, something you will so easily sacrifice for power and money.
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    (Original post by StarvingAutist)
    I wonder what they'll be. The right to make a profit will probably come into existence.
    The right to profit has always existed.
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    (Original post by The two eds)
    You sound like someone who values seats and votes over principles and ideals. You are probably the type of person who values profit over people's lives or industrial actions over the environment. What happened to having pride in your values? Labour should move to the left in the territory and values they were founded upon. It should not sacrifice its values for votes.

    This is why we need Chuka as a leader because while you want UKIP supporters in Labour, he does not and he will be successful in removing say 40 % of the Labour vote up north into UKIPs hands. It will be a purer Labour that prides itself on values, something you will so easily sacrifice for power and money.
    My values are helping the worst off in society, which can only happen if a Labour government in power.

    Do you want to go back to the years of Tony Benn and an unelectable Labour government? That went really well last time. Who doesn't look back with fondness don't he Thatcher years...
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    (Original post by Ritterschaft)
    As a UKIPer, I am pleased about this
    Since when is having no human rights pleasing? 😡
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Not to mention they are essentially getting rid of the right to strike.
    Woah. Woah woah woah. Why? What's their reasoning? Is it for certain industries?
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    (Original post by xGCSE_Studentx)
    Since when is having no human rights pleasing? 😡
    They'll be decided in Britain by conservatives not by Junker's rabble
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    (Original post by Ritterschaft)
    They'll be decided in Britain by conservatives not by Junker's rabble
    Lol 😂
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    Our rights are protected by the common law. The judges have made it quite clear that, even if the absence of legislation, the courts will continue to enforce human rights.

    Your fears are unfounded.
    How would a "British bill of rights" be different to the European one? Not trying to be provocative. Genuinely not informed in this area.
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    (Original post by Ritterschaft)
    They'll be decided in Britain by conservatives not by Junker's rabble
    Junker's junk, get it... aha
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Woah. Woah woah woah. Why? What's their reasoning? Is it for certain industries?
    There will have to be a 50% turnout at the vote and for industries such as transport, health, teaching there will be further restrictions. It basically means no more strikes.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    What I don't like is the ability of employers to hire agency staff. It significantly limits the ability of strikes to achieve a result.

    FWIW I do support secret balloting, but I think scabs should face legal, not merely social repercussions.

    You are a disgraceful human being.
 
 
 

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