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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    Yes, but I'm talking specifically about young people in their 20s and 30s.
    Tories did see a fall in support among the 18-34 age group of 2-3%.

    Within that though they saw a drop in male support going from 18-24 to 25-34 but a rise in female support (though Labour already had a comfortable lead in both age groups).

    I've seen no evidence that was due to their economic policy though. We know for example that Ukip's increases support came from males.
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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    People who think that supporting contractionary fiscal policy means opposition to austerity should have their right to vote revoked.

    We'd be better off giving votes to cats and dogs, they've probably got more sense.



    Oh the hubris, the hubris.
    Lol you completely misread what I said. I said I have made no indication of opposition to those economic ideals meaning there is no reason he should not understand my support for austerity and cuts.

    Lol your post is looking a little Awks now.
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    Then I struggle to understand how you can support fiscal contractionist economics.
    to which you reply:

    (Original post by Gears265)
    Why do you struggle to understand? I have made no indication of any opposition to austerity or budget cuts.
    Its pretty clear what you said. You think support for fiscal contractionist economics = opposition to austerity.


    I don't know why you're trying to deny this now, we can all read your post and see what it says.
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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    to which you reply:



    Its pretty clear what you said. You think support for fiscal contractionist economics = opposition to austerity.


    I don't know why you're trying to deny this now, we can all read your post and see what it says.
    Haha loool.

    Read again please. I will try to explain one more time. I am very much a supporter of fiscal contractionist policy I made this clear. The poster could not understand my support for it.

    This baffled me, why? Because I have shown no indication I don't support it or am in anyway opposed to it. I love this type of politics. Austerity and cuts are my ideals for the current economic model. I couldn't understand how he could not understand why I support it.

    I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for misreading it or are we going to sit here like 10 year olds arguing over misreading what I said?
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    Haha loool.

    Read again please. I will try to explain one more time. I am very much a supporter of fiscal contractionist policy I made this clear. The poster could not understand my support for it.

    This baffled me, why? Because I have shown no indication I don't support it or am in anyway opposed to it. I love this type of politics. Austerity and cuts are my ideals for the current economic model. I couldn't understand how he could not understand why I support it.

    I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for misreading it or are we going to sit here like 10 year olds arguing over misreading what I said?
    Yeah, ok mate. We can all read what you wrote.
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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    to which you reply:



    Its pretty clear what you said. You think support for fiscal contractionist economics = opposition to austerity.


    I don't know why you're trying to deny this now, we can all read your post and see what it says.
    Oh and by the way let's assume what you say is true and I had no idea what the terminology meant as it appeared before my eyes, one only has to do a Google search using the (you guessed it) the INTERNET. Having just done so now the definition that appears is quite clear what the policy means and so I would have to be a 1 year old Martian (Mars years) blind and deaf, to translate that as opposing austerity and cuts loool. This is hilarious .
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    (Original post by cole-slaw)
    Yeah, ok mate. We can all read what you wrote.
    Haha, ok then lol. At least the poster read it clear but you hide in your bubble of denial. I am fairly new to the TSR but did not know 10 year olds actually congregated here, how pathetic.
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    I'm a Corbyn voter, not because I'm left wing, but because he is the only viable political opponent of neoliberalism. I am more than happy to have a free-market with socially orientated goals in a federal United Kingdom. What I am not happy with is the 99% subsidising the 1% which is currently how it works and anyone who has owned or been part of an SME in the United Kingdom will know that they get completely screwed over, whereas the corporate elite get tax reliefs, subsidies and money towards training. If an SME owner doesn't pay their tax the HMRC will hound them until they either pay up, file bankruptcy or commit suicide. If a corporate owner doesn't then they just simply let it slide because 'you cant hurt big business'.

    The problem with the UK is neoliberalism and has been since the days of Thatcher. Opposing neoliberalism does not make me a left or right winger. It makes me someone wanting a fair system irregardless of whether its a socialist system or capitalist system. However, anyone in the United Kingdom currently thinking the system in place is free-market capitalism is a complete and utter moron. The UK, just like the USA since Reaganomics, has been an unfair playing field and this economic inequality has not only caused wealth inequality but social inequality as a consequence.

    I do not subscribe to this divisive nonsense of left vs right. Its an overly simplistic tribalistic outlook of what is not as simple as black and white, left and right or whatever else. Its like picking a football team and going 'WAHOO MY TEAM IS THE BEST! YAY!!' Thatcher brought neoliberalism to the United Kingdom, Blair continued it as Labour wanted to continue pandering to the corporate elite to serve themselves and Cameron is doing exactly the same now.

    Notice how true small-c conservatives like Peter Hitchens absolutely abhor the current 'Conservatives' - its because they are not conservative, not neoliberal. They are only continuing the neoliberalism that has been at play since the days of Thatcher. Thatcher mugged off many in the UK by giving them homes in return for a future of corporate slavery, debt entrapment and wealth inequality. These people thought it was wonderful that they had their own homes but the reality is you were given them in exchange for your future, your children's future and so forth. Why do you think New Labour brought in student loans in the first instance? They were simply adding the next layer of debt entrapment upon the nation - something of which Jeremy Corbyn himself has apologised for because he know deeps down this is what is going on.

    I'm not a left winger. I'm not a right winger. I'm just me.....and I'm sick of neoliberalism. If your simple mind cant fathom that then thats a fault of yours, not mine.
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    (Original post by Flibib)
    And Labour polled 9.5 in 2005 and 9.3 in 2015, potentially indicating that a more noticably left wing leadership doesn't necessarily hamper electoral prospects
    5% higher turnout in 2015, The position is much more complex though because whilst they were losing to UKIP and the SNP they were gaining from the Liberals.

    Yes it does hamper electoral prospects because it attracts the wrong votes. Labour's highest ever turnout in votes was in 1951 but they lost the election. Labour piled up enormous majorities in mining seats etc but anywhere that was a bit mixed went Tory. They key to winning elections is to win as many marginal as you can, not pile up majorities in safe seats. That isn't as simple as occupying the middle ground as any losing Liberal will tell you.
 
 
 
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