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    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    Well, there's your problem.
    Obviously. Likely because I wasn't in the Anglican education system.
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    Good times.
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    (Original post by The Dictator)
    I wish I'd been born in the early 1600s, so I could participate in the English Civil War and fight on the Roundhead side. Cromwell was a great man.

    This is clearly a troll thread. Morals are more lax now than they were then, even if the Restoration provided a temporary relaxation in morals.
    You likely would have been killed then. I prefer the peaceful way in which the High Tories went about the Restoration.

    What morals, the Puritans removed the religion institution from the state. The Puritans just did what they wanted murdering everybody. They were scum.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Because in case you haven't realised Black people don't have it great in Britain right now and there are records of Black people in Britain of that time period who got on and became well to do. So that is where I get it from. Just there were very few non white people. Also women had the protection of married, rapists were hung, they brought up the children while the men went off to war and did work. So women has it better in the period I want to go back to than women do today. Just women couldn't have any political power, indeed only male Protestants could.
    I think mostly you're looking at the black people and women in the higher classes of 17th century society. The majority of black people were far more downtrodden then than they are today, and many women faced a daily risk of sexual assault from those up the social ladder from them, against whom they could seek no justice.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    You likely would have been killed then. I prefer the peaceful way in which the High Tories went about the Restoration.

    What morals, the Puritans removed the religion institution from the state. The Puritans just did what they wanted murdering everybody. They were scum.
    They were great men who brought virtue, stability and glory to Britain.
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    (Original post by Ndella)
    I don't fancy being a slave, thank you very much.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think the slave trade had really got going by that point, certainly not with the racialist component
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    Yes, I would have liked that.:sad:
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    (Original post by anosmianAcrimony)
    I think mostly you're looking at the black people and women in the higher classes of 17th century society. The majority of black people were far more downtrodden then than they are today, and many women faced a daily risk of sexual assault from those up the social ladder from them, against whom they could seek no justice.
    Well we don't know very much about poor black people of that period in Britain. Given how few there were. No I am talking about women in general. So you mean like mass rapes of women over decades and political protection for the men who did it? Some things don't change. Though things started to change through the period I am talking about.
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    (Original post by littlenorthernlass)
    Yes, I would have liked that.:sad:
    Stop being so naive.

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    (Original post by littlenorthernlass)
    Yes, I would have liked that.:sad:
    Why?
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    (Original post by The Dictator)
    They were great men who brought virtue, stability and glory to Britain.
    No they destroyed the state.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    No they destroyed the state.
    Lol, how did they destroy it? They reunited a Britain that was tearing itself apart. Cromwell pacified Ireland and Scotland and introduced much needed constitutional reforms.
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    (Original post by Conservationofmass)
    Good times.
    Indeed. The Restoration. Glorious Revolutions. 9 years war. War of Spanish Succession. I could have lived through it all.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Indeed. The Restoration. Glorious Revolutions. 9 years war. War of Spanish Succession. I could have lived through it all.
    **** all happens now.
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    (Original post by The Dictator)
    Lol, how did they destroy it? They reunited a Britain that was tearing itself apart. Cromwell pacified Ireland and Scotland and introduced much needed constitutional reforms.
    He removed the Monarchy and Church. You mean he murdered people in those places caused hatred and resentment for decades to come? The three kingdoms where united under the Crown of Charles I.

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    (Original post by Conservationofmass)
    **** all happens now.
    I know. It is so boring. Peace can ruinous to a nations like ours. It allows Liberalism fester.
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    (Original post by RobML)
    Stop being so naive.

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    How is she being so?
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    (Original post by william walker)
    He removed the Monarchy and Church. You mean he murdered people in those places caused hatred and resentment for decades to come? The three kingdoms where united under the Crown of Charles I.

    Charles I was an ineffective ruler as well as a tyrant. His removal was necessary for our evolution to a state that prizes liberty and tolerance rather than imposition of religious and cultural norms by autocratic fiat.

    He did not remove the church...last time I checked the Church of England remained. The only major difference is that Presbyterianism replaced Anglicanism.

    The three kingdoms were not united under Charles I lmao. What history book have you been reading? Scotland rebelled and smashed his armies. Ireland was in a state of insurrection. The country was falling apart.
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    Being asthmatic no. Also not a fan of cholera.
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    No, I like having lived to be 22.
 
 
 
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