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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    Like people weren't screaming about how the "evil", "nasty" Tories weren't trying to put people in workhouses, killing off the disabled etc.
    do you realise the department for work and pensions released statistics that over 2600 disabled people have died after being incorrectly declared fit for work
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    (Original post by Errm336)
    They weren't Corbyn supporters before they joined?
    Those who joined prior to the leadership contest clearly weren't. There had been a considerable changeover of membership (I can't find the figures) on Ed's watch.



    I suppose the guys that energised the leadership debate were all "non-voters"?
    Some will be, some won't be. The point is that those 250,000 don't matter. They have now found their Messiah. If they weren't voters before they will be now.But what about the millions who weren't attracted to Corbyn's message (or that of Burnham or Cameron or Farage or Clegg). How do you get people to attend a Sermon on the Mount who would rather watch Maccabi Tel Aviv? That is why non-voters are non-voters.
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    Lol for some reason the video has been removed from their channel...
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    Because Corbyn would destroy this nation once and for all, finish the work left by Blair. Labour are a cancer and the public must be warned of such a threat.
    Blair is a neoliberal just like Cameron.

    Blair wasn't a working class Labourite and Cameron isn't a Conservative. They're both Thatcher adoring neoliberal's furthering the establishment and corporate monopoly agenda at the expense of everyone else. Tony Blair didn't get rich by accident. The reason Corbyn is getting so much flack now is because he doesn't subscribe to the neoliberal agenda, much like Vladimir Putin doesn't which is why the EU is so desperate in its attempts to portray Russia as some dystopian nightmarish place where everyone burns in the streets and the world is going to end. I've actually been fortunate to go there and places like St. Petersburg and Moscow are incredible and nowhere near as bad as Western know-it-alls with a political agenda make out.
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    (Original post by Mr JB)
    Blair is a neoliberal just like Cameron.

    Blair wasn't a working class Labourite and Cameron isn't a Conservative. They're both Thatcher adoring neoliberal's furthering the establishment and corporate monopoly agenda at the expense of everyone else. Tony Blair didn't get rich by accident. The reason Corbyn is getting so much flack now is because he doesn't subscribe to the neoliberal agenda, much like Vladimir Putin doesn't which is why the EU is so desperate in its attempts to portray Russia as some dystopian nightmarish place where everyone burns in the streets and the world is going to end. I've actually been fortunate to go there and places like St. Petersburg and Moscow are incredible and nowhere near as bad as Western know-it-alls with a political agenda make out.
    Yet I hate almost all of Corbyn's policies, Id rather have this 'neoliberal agenda' than his socialist agenda even if I do not subscribe to it
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    (Original post by Jiminy Cricket)
    I'm a Conservative voter and as a youngish person does I visited YouTube today only to be confronted with a conservative video which TBH was just four points ****ging Corbyn off. Now I don't particularly like him as a labour leader but why the heck have they been posting such rude stuff about other candidates. Like, looking at a few points, there is no general election for four years now. Half of labour hates Corbyn anyway. He's probably too left wing for the majority of people opting for more centralised politics.... The list goes on....

    So the thing I can't get my head round, hopefully someone can explain, is why the heck do the conservatives feel the need to tell the world about how Corbyn is an arse. And TBF as I've said, I'm a Conservative voter but some of the points raised in the video are WAY out of context... It's just abit imature IMO, considering these people are supposed to be running the country.

    Link below
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgJokgNJHo
    What are you trying to say... of course they can do this there is something called freedom of speech and if you think we shouldn't have that.... well I think you'll find that's a hard authoritarian view there :/

    On another note we all know your not a Tory, also it's allowed not aloud, just thought you might want to know
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    Yet I hate almost all of Corbyn's policies, Id rather have this 'neoliberal agenda' than his socialist agenda even if I do not subscribe to it
    Are you rich? If not I hope you enjoy living in the eventual slums that will arise due to increasing inequality, a direct result of neoliberal politics. Corbyn's socialism may not be the answer, but it is sure as hell a lot better than neoliberalism. It is no coincidence that countries like Norway score so highly on the QoL indexes. Neoliberalism is worse than both socialism and free-market capitalism as its ultimate goal is to make the rich richer at the expense of the poor majority.
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    (Original post by Mr JB)
    Are you rich? If not I hope you enjoy living in the eventual slums that will arise due to increasing inequality, a direct result of neoliberal politics. Corbyn's socialism may not be the answer, but it is sure as hell a lot better than neoliberalism. It is no coincidence that countries like Norway score so highly on the QoL indexes. Neoliberalism is worse than both socialism and free-market capitalism as its ultimate goal is to make the rich richer at the expense of the poor majority.
    No I am not rich and yes you are right, I do not wear a tin foil hat either. You come from the breed of people where apparently Zionists and the Illuminati control everything, Israel conspired with Chinese communists to mastermind 9/11 and the Holocaust was a lie. Sorry but I prefer not to step into your world, I like it in my world. I can look out the window and not see what you see which is the bilderberg group disguised as builders fixing a leaky pipe while really planning to infect the water system with a mind control formula created by america to make people vote for the Tories or UKIP- because in your world you can't accept that majority of people in this country are not left wing and never will be.
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    Because Corbyn would destroy this nation once and for all, finish the work left by Blair. Labour are a cancer and the public must be warned of such a threat.
    Or you can opt for the conservatives who are kings of deception and statistical change
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    (Original post by BigItch)
    Or you can opt for the conservatives who are kings of deception and statistical change
    I have never voted for conservatives, I am anti-EU so why would I vote for a pro-EU party?
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    I have never voted for conservatives, I am anti-EU so why would I vote for a pro-EU party?
    I thought you was has you opted for a neo liberal stance... I am going to say it now corbyn will not lead us in 2020. He will be lucky to get 2 years untill the blair brigade oust him of the leader. I wilk never vote conservative these are my political parties by preference top being who i will akways vpte for bottom being who i would never vote for

    Labour
    Respect
    Sinn Fein(if i was irish)
    SNP(if scottish)
    BNP (economically make labour look right wing pre Corbyn)
    Liberal Democrats
    Conservatives
    UKIP
    Greens
    I think Corbyn wants to be out of EU so ypu can choose extreme left with Corbyn or Extreme right with Nigel
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    (Original post by BigItch)
    I thought you was has you opted for a neo liberal stance... I am going to say it now corbyn will not lead us in 2020. He will be lucky to get 2 years untill the blair brigade oust him of the leader. I wilk never vote conservative these are my political parties by preference top being who i will akways vpte for bottom being who i would never vote for

    Labour
    Respect
    Sinn Fein(if i was irish)
    SNP(if scottish)
    BNP (economically make labour look right wing pre Corbyn)
    Liberal Democrats
    Conservatives
    UKIP
    Greens
    I think Corbyn wants to be out of EU so ypu can choose extreme left with Corbyn or Extreme right with Nigel
    If you read closely I said I don't subscribe to the agenda but I would rather be dead or live under that agenda than a socialist one.

    I was going to talk seriously but then I just noticed you put BNP above liberals, Tories and UKIP. Good god, you need help.
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    No I am not rich and yes you are right, I do not wear a tin foil hat either. You come from the breed of people where apparently Zionists and the Illuminati control everything, Israel conspired with Chinese communists to mastermind 9/11 and the Holocaust was a lie. Sorry but I prefer not to step into your world, I like it in my world. I can look out the window and not see what you see which is the bilderberg group disguised as builders fixing a leaky pipe while really planning to infect the water system with a mind control formula created by america to make people vote for the Tories or UKIP- because in your world you can't accept that majority of people in this country are not left wing and never will be.
    Oh, here we go. The typical tinfoil hat blah de blah fuelled with the use of the word zionist in an attempt to stifle actual discussion on a subject. Can you actually discuss and debate something maturely without resorting to complete and utter hyperbole, like an adult? Well done on attacking me for something I've not said though. All I have said is I oppose the neoliberalism that was inflicted upon this nation by Thatcher a few decades ago.

    Now, I wholly accept the majority of people in the country are not left wing. I myself am not left wing. I am a free-market supporting minarchist and wish for a true free-market economy, rather than a neoliberal monopolised economy that works in the interest of a small group. However, you're too deluded to see past your own ignorant agenda and view of the world and see things in such a simplistic manner its really quite bewildering.

    So now, before you go off again spouting inane gibberish that you probably theory crafted out of your rectum, try and actually engage those few brain cells you do have to see the world for what it actually is. The biggest mistake you've made my dear friend is that you trust western governments and most notably ones that have covered up things like Hillsborough, protected pedophiles and tortured people without the required approval to do so. You seem to come from the same brainwashed school of thought as these dumb arse Americans that think Obama is some saving grace just because he has more melatonin in his skin than the last ****nugget George Bush, and a government that ran Project MKUltra (something you probably know sod all about) as well as spying on its populace for years and years, only to them victimise a whistleblower who spoke the truth to the extent that he had to seek refuge in Russia.

    But of course, these people can be trusted to protect our interests and most certainly do not serve the corporate elites and themselves in the process. Again, if you actually got out of your house more, you'd see the world for what it actually is rather than what you think it is because you once watched a video online of Cameron spouting some rhetoric and how its so awesome. All you tribalistic party voters are all the same, moronic. You vote for the same neoliberal policies and the government laps it up because you sheep are the prized morons that keep the champagne in Brussels bandwagon at full speed. I mean, you have to give Blair, Bush, Cameron and co. credit where its due because they've managed to convince two entire nations of delusional morons that they live in democratic countries purely on the illusion of choice, to the extent that these happy clapping seals turn up on election day and get erect over the prospect of ticking a box to signify who they wish to be their supreme rulers for the next years (elective dictatorship).

    Of course, I expect all of the above is lost on you. I hope you enjoy falling victim to the spin doctors because turkeys that vote for Christmas deserve it. The same idiots that voted for Blair deserved it also. But of course, just like the morons who vote Labour because their parents told them to do so and they've been preconditioned to pick a party and vote for it, you will do exactly the same as you've been educated to think in a certain way to give you a false perception of the world to the extent that you then go and label those who see the world for what it is, as tinfoil hat wearers, or whatever other nonsense you can come up with.

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    (Original post by Gears265)
    If you read closely I said I don't subscribe to the agenda but I would rather be dead or live under that agenda than a socialist one.

    I was going to talk seriously but then I just noticed you put BNP above liberals, Tories and UKIP. Good god, you need help.
    Personal preferences. Dont like liberals as they propped up the tories tinpot conservatives , don't like the conservatives as there agenda leaves me poorer by the day and ukip is anti EU conservatives. Extreme right is as far away from the centre as far left.
    If it came to it if labour was to go and if it was out of conservatives and BNP i would vote BNP. There is only one party i will vote conservatives over and that is the greens
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    (Original post by Jiminy Cricket)
    I'm a Conservative voter and as a youngish person does I visited YouTube today only to be confronted with a conservative video which TBH was just four points ****ging Corbyn off. Now I don't particularly like him as a labour leader but why the heck have they been posting such rude stuff about other candidates. Like, looking at a few points, there is no general election for four years now. Half of labour hates Corbyn anyway. He's probably too left wing for the majority of people opting for more centralised politics.... The list goes on....

    So the thing I can't get my head round, hopefully someone can explain, is why the heck do the conservatives feel the need to tell the world about how Corbyn is an arse. And TBF as I've said, I'm a Conservative voter but some of the points raised in the video are WAY out of context... It's just abit imature IMO, considering these people are supposed to be running the country.

    Link below
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgJokgNJHo
    59% of labour voted for Corbyn so half can't hate him.
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    The most embarassing thing is that it doesn't give any context to the quotes and plays the music so loud you can barely hear what Corbyn is saying anyway to the extent they may as well not have bothered putting in the clips of him speaking. The black and white imaging is also embarassing. Come on Tories, this is same quality as something I'd expect from the Daily Mail.
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    (Original post by Gears265)
    There is nothing 'thick' about exposing Labour for who they really are. They destroy every constituency they touch, I am yet to experience a civilised and appealing Labour constituency. They are all filth.
    Do you really believe that an MP can destroy a constituency by theirself?
    In any case I'll give you some nice ones:
    Cambridge
    Hove
    Newcastle North
    Newcastle Central
    Newcastle East
    Durham
    ... The list goes on.
 
 
 
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