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    when peter Hitchen goes to America he probably identifies himself as Christopher Hitchens brother.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Britain is a nation state.
    No, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a nation state. Britain is a political concept with little meaning to it -- in other words, just a name.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Owen Jones is alright. He is just wrong.
    I tend to agree with Owen Jones, but I respect people who can disagree on the arguments without making it personal - I suspect the only reason the person you were responding to 'doesn't trust' Jones is because he's a 'lefty' which is an attitude I very much dislike.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    No, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a nation state. Britain is a political concept with little meaning to it -- in other words, just a name.
    There is not UK nation or UK state. It is the British nation and British state. The UK is just a political name after the act of Union. With or without that Parliamentary union the British nation and state would exist. As it is the thing with power. Anyway this is getting rather stupid going over the same point over and over again. Do you have anything to say about the video or the comment made by Peter Hitchens within it?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I tend to agree with Owen Jones, but I respect people who can disagree on the arguments without making it personal - I suspect the only reason the person you were responding to 'doesn't trust' Jones is because he's a 'lefty' which is an attitude I very much dislike.
    Well yeah no point getting personal. As I basically think all the people who have similar political views to mine are A wholes. Whereas I actually like some people who are Liberals. If the government hadn't destroyed my life and became tyrannical, I would be a Liberal/Socialist. I mean I really don't like Peter Hitchens as a person or Douglas Murray. The only person from my political side I actually liked was Michael Coren, but he turned out to be a lying traitor.

    I have watch a lot of Owen Jones videos and I must say he talks utter rubbish and I agree with nothing he says. He is obviously as decent guy who wants to help people though. Just as I said he is wrong.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    There is not UK nation or UK state. It is the British nation and British state. The UK is just a political name after the act of Union. With or without that Parliamentary union the British nation and state would exist. As it is the thing with power. Anyway this is getting rather stupid going over the same point over and over again. Do you have anything to say about the video or the comment made by Peter Hitchens within it?
    Haven't watched it yet. I'll quote you when I've watched it.

    Bold: No, that would be the the UK Government.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Haven't watched it yet. I'll quote you when I've watched it.

    Bold: No, that would be the the UK Government.
    It is the British government.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    It is the British government.
    As far the government is concerned, it is interchangeable, but the official term is the UK, not Britain. In the same way that the official term is the United States of America, and not 'America' generally.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    I didnt even click on the video. I just felt like commenting that I want the other Hitchens back.
    Why should anyone care about your views on an interview which you admit you didn't even watch?

    Especially since, during it, he makes some very interesting comments about his brother and their difficult relationship. Someone whom you claim to have some time for??

    As you should, Christopher Hitchens was a fascinating man, no doubt about it.
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    (Original post by william walker)
    Owen Jones is alright. He is just wrong.
    I feel the opposite.
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    (Original post by ElephantMemory)
    I feel the opposite.
    And?
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    (Original post by william walker)
    And?
    I don't like him.
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    OMG almost 50 minutes of Owen Jones MA MSt (Oxon) hotness!
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    that Peter Hitchens guy is painful. I want the better Hitchens back.
    God clearly wants the Archatheist Christopher Hitchens MA (Oxon) (PBUH) in heaven to serve him the teas.
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    (Original post by chocolate hottie)
    Why should anyone care about your views on an interview which you admit you didn't even watch?
    I didn't say anything about the interview. Google 'practice reading skills'.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    I didn't say anything about the interview. Google 'practice reading skills'.
    Google "talking vapid irrelevancies"?
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    (Original post by chocolate hottie)
    Google "talking vapid irrelevancies"?
    The thread is about Peter Hitchens so I stated my opinion about him, which is completely relevant. You accusing me of saying thing I haven't said is a vapid irrelevancy.

    And seeing as I don't enjoy being bled on by menstruating females (or males who act PMS-y), I am going to put you on my ignore list now. Bye.
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    I have never been so sure of what I am not going to be spending the next 50 minutes watching.

    edit: ah **** I'm watching it.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    The thread is about Peter Hitchens so I stated my opinion about him, which is completely relevant. You accusing me of saying thing I haven't said is a vapid irrelevancy.

    And seeing as I don't enjoy being bled on by menstruating females (or males who act PMS-y), I am going to put you on my ignore list now. Bye.
    Oooh. Get you.
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    (Original post by United1892)
    Owen Jones and Peter Hitchens both seem completely up their own arses on that.
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    What does that mean? They attempt to think about or discuss their own country?
 
 
 
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