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    (Original post by Catholic_)
    If you want them here, they should be accomodated in the homes of yourselves personally. You should display tolerance and fairness to these people, like you ask the working class to do until they hang themselves and their communities put up their own funeral parlours.

    Lets see these people been told they habe no choice or freedoms but to accept this circumstance, see how fair it feels.
    There have been people offering spare rooms to councils that will be accepting refugee migrants.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    The UK is taking around 350k people net migration from within the EU alone each year ironically from countries that are against taking in these economic migrants.

    Secondly the UK has a MASSIVE population compared to other EU countries apart from France and Germany who have countries, land space and resources that DWARF the UK

    The people are sick of immigration because it is THEY that bear the brunt of it.

    Higher house prices / rents
    Suppressed wages
    Harder to get a job
    On the frontline of the lack of social cohesion (Please see the two black people venting at muslims on london bussess last week) Terrorism and so on
    Longer waiting times for Healthcare

    People are absolutely sick of it and it has nothing to do with media propaganda (Majority of which is pro immigration anyway)
    You cannot blame migrants for most of the points you made though. Councils and the government play are large part in that.

    Parts in bold make no sense whatsoever. How is that an issue due to migration? In that situation, who's to say all of those people weren't born in this country? Lack of social cohesion will happen with or without migrants. As for terrorism, don't be daft. As if a british born person can't be a terrorist lmao.
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    (Original post by Novascope)
    You cannot blame migrants for most of the points you made though. Councils and the government play are large part in that.

    Parts in bold make no sense whatsoever. How is that an issue due to migration? In that situation, who's to say all of those people weren't born in this country? Lack of social cohesion will happen with or without migrants. As for terrorism, don't be daft. As if a british born person can't be a terrorist lmao.
    Of course government policies contribute largely to that but they have refused to properly address these issues for years and naturally people here do not want further stress being put on them.

    Because Islam, islamic terrorism, honor killings, death to infidels and such intolerance have been brought to the UK by immigration. Somehow an asian guy speaking in broken English doesnt strike me as being born here in the UK although even if he were, still a product of recent immigration.

    The absoloute number one destroyer of social cohesion is throwing a tonne of different cultures, languages and ethnic backgrounds together. Especially when them cultures clash so significantly

    Yes Islamic terrorsm brought here by immigrants. Sure many are British born and raised 2nd and third generation
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Of course government policies contribute largely to that but they have refused to properly address these issues for years and naturally people here do not want further stress being put on them.

    Because Islam, islamic terrorism, honor killings, death to infidels and such intolerance have been brought to the UK by immigration. Somehow an asian guy speaking in broken English doesnt strike me as being born here in the UK although even if he were, still a product of recent immigration.

    The absoloute number one destroyer of social cohesion is throwing a tonne of different cultures, languages and ethnic backgrounds together. Especially when them cultures clash so significantly

    Yes Islamic terrorsm brought here by immigrants. Sure many are British born and raised 2nd and third generation
    Well clearly you're only picturing immigrants as being a certain group of people. Don't be completely ignorant and act as if this country doesn't get European immigrants. So no, immigration has not solely brought those things to the UK. Also, where the hell are you hearing that honour killings and terrorism has been on such a large scale here? Because it sure hasn't, so I don't think you can complain about immigration "bringing" that to the UK.

    You seem more bothered by the fact immigration brings new cultures and languages to the UK. Which is completely fine.
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    For the following areas I will put in whether they help or hinder the problem area.

    What impact will all of these migrants have on;
    Housing. HINDER. More competition for housing will push the prices up. Clearly common sense.
    http://england.shelter.org.uk/campai...housing_crisis

    Public transport. HINDER. More people using the service when it is already overcrowded.
    Public services-e.g healthcare, the police, prisons, welfare. HINDER. These services are already being stretched, that is well known.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...s-prisons.html

    Community cohesion. HINDER. The ghettos formed and Shariah law courts are frankly unacceptable.
    http://swedenreport.org/2014/10/29/s...l-no-go-zones/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim...ation_Tribunal

    Shortage of jobs in the country. HINDER. Obvious why. No point creating two million jobs but letting three million in.
    Wages of jobs in the country. HINDER. Again, it is obvious why a lot of labour being available, happy to work for low wages, will drive down wages (all whilst the cost of housing for example rises).
    Paying off the national debt & closing the deficit (so pay more in tax than you use in schools, etc). HINDER. These migrants will use up more than they put in. If they keep a Brit out of a job they will also have th pay for their welfare, etc.
    National security. HINDER. It is already discussed at length the security threat of allowing migrants in from areas where their true identities and intentions cannot be ascertained.
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a2949596.html
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-minutes.html
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...crisis-6694992

    I could go on. To me we have such huge problems and the left want to add to it? The only reasons I can think of are;
    1) They wish to destroy the UK. They resent it. Weaken it and watch it crumble and fall. With any luck the whole of Europe will follow.
    2) They wish to play a sick game of "how far can we push people". Look at the people being arrested in Germany; many have no criminal records and are local citizens but are just being ignored and ignored.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015...ny-year-alone/

    Whatever their reasons, if the left keep ramming these lot down peoples' throats, forcing them from their homes to make way for migrants, allowing no go areas to be set up and the police and emergency services barred from the region, seeing their culture replaced by one that actually resents the hosts who gave them a home...
    things are going to get very messy.
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    (Original post by Novascope)
    Well clearly you're only picturing immigrants as being a certain group of people. Don't be completely ignorant and act as if this country doesn't get European immigrants. So no, immigration has not solely brought those things to the UK. Also, where the hell are you hearing that honour killings and terrorism has been on such a large scale here? Because it sure hasn't, so I don't think you can complain about immigration "bringing" that to the UK.

    You seem more bothered by the fact immigration brings new cultures and languages to the UK. Which is completely fine.
    European immigrants like Roma gypsies? Dirty thieving scum who roam the streets looking to rob people. i already informed YOU about our net migration from within EU countries.

    Yes immigration HAS solely brought these things to the UK. I didn't say it was on a large scale did I? I am simply pointing negative problems that have arisen due to mass immigration of vastly different cultures to the UK's.

    What bothers me is mass immigration and poor assimilation. People from backwards third world cultures that are completely at odds with UK's. It needs to be done slowly and carefully otherwise you get bull**** like this

    http://news.sky.com/story/1570661/wo...ic-rant-on-bus

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...nted-on-video/

    http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...am-in-pictures

    The simple fact of the matter is immigration that the UK has seen over the last decade and is seeing is now is terrible unless you are wealthy
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Of course government policies contribute largely to that but they have refused to properly address these issues for years and naturally people here do not want further stress being put on them.

    Because Islam, islamic terrorism, honor killings, death to infidels and such intolerance have been brought to the UK by immigration. Somehow an asian guy speaking in broken English doesnt strike me as being born here in the UK although even if he were, still a product of recent immigration.

    The absoloute number one destroyer of social cohesion is throwing a tonne of different cultures, languages and ethnic backgrounds together. Especially when them cultures clash so significantly

    Yes Islamic terrorsm brought here by immigrants. Sure many are British born and raised 2nd and third generation
    We certainly don't want a culture like America's with all its immigrants from all corners of the globe causing problems like economic growth and superpowerness.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    We certainly don't want a culture like America's with all its immigrants from all corners of the globe causing problems like economic growth and superpowerness.
    Ah yes because America is analogous with the UK :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Novascope)
    Lol that's funny.

    I don't think a lot of people WANT them here, rather they have no problem if they were to come here. When will people realise that the UK is taking in the least amount of people in Europe? Classic example of the media brainwashing you into disliking people who've done nothing wrong.
    sauce?
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    How exactly can someone house a whole other family?
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    (Original post by Mr JB)
    If you kick all of the lazy entitled Brits out of social housing and replace them with hardworking migrants the UK would be a much better country. The problem is with the attitude of spoilt Brits and a generation of baby bloomers who had everything handed to them on a plate. This attitude is being passed down and its mostly Brits who are the problem.
    The difference between useless Brits and useless migrants is we're stuck with the Brits. We can't do anything about them. Not that the left want to. They go rioting, sorry "protesting", when the government try to bring in measures to stop them from pretending to be disabled so they can carry on living on the sick.

    Obviously loads are genuinely too disabled to work and it's terrible that they're being caught up in this but anybody who lived on a council estate during the Labour government (ie a minority of left wingers on here whining about the Tories) will tell you that a massive proportion are ok to work but choose not to.

    The government is trying to make the scroungers earn their living instead of taking it but they're being vilified for it. If they can succeed in this, we wouldn't have a problem. But unfortunately we cannot deport them.

    However what I would point out is that Brits aren't any more lazy than the likes of Greeks, Spanish and French who are known world ride for being lazy
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    (Original post by mathscot)
    the true issue is that they are not paying their fair share if they are not working.
    So if they earn £13,000 a year picking strawberries, paying £600 income tax they are still paying their fair share?

    Low-skilled immigrants are not good for this country, only high-skilled/earning ones.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    The difference between useless Brits and useless migrants is we're stuck with the Brits
    A lot of Lefties don't seem to understand this.

    We have a choice (ignoring EU rules) whether we accept immigrants. We cannot deport chavs to Australia any more.
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    (Original post by Catholic_)
    If you want them here, they should be accomodated in the homes of yourselves personally. You should display tolerance and fairness to these people, like you ask the working class to do until they hang themselves and their communities put up their own funeral parlours.

    Lets see these people been told they habe no choice or freedoms but to accept this circumstance, see how fair it feels.
    If they personally want a migrant to live in their home, sure! I think that's a fairly good solution.

    That being said, wanting something to happen doesn't necessarily mean that you want to make it happen yourself. Eg, I want the NHS and public education but I don't want to become a doctor or a teacher. The government has the resources and the power to make these things happen hence we express that we want something and the government does it on our behalf. That is, if the government is of the same opinion to us.

    I wouldn't expect someone who is anti-immigration to go the border and physically push people back!

    (Original post by billydisco)
    12 hours and the Lefties all remain silent......... pathetic bunch. And then have the audacity to call the right self-servatives.
    It's almost as if left wing people actually have lives.
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    We have a choice (ignoring EU rules) whether we accept immigrants. We cannot deport chavs to Australia any more.
    I lol'd. Thank you.
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    (Original post by Novascope)
    You seem more bothered by the fact immigration brings new cultures and languages to the UK. Which is completely fine.
    Its not fine. If they come here, accept our culture. Otherwise whats the point coming here? Oh I know, our money!
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    Its not fine. If they come here, accept our culture. Otherwise whats the point coming here? Oh I know, our money!
    thats just fascist.
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    (Original post by Catholic_)
    If you want them here, they should be accomodated in the homes of yourselves personally. You should display tolerance and fairness to these people, like you ask the working class to do until they hang themselves and their communities put up their own funeral parlours.

    Lets see these people been told they habe no choice or freedoms but to accept this circumstance, see how fair it feels.
    The children of such idiots don't deserve the risks that would carry.

    (Original post by skeptical_john)
    Are these people going to pay their benefits costs as well? NHS/Schooling/Services? The problem is not solely (though it is a huge problem) down to housing.
    Sure, would save the tax payers from taking the burden. If the people who want the migrants can't personally afford that, then the migrants can't go there. Simples.
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    We all know socialists are only generous with other people's money. Housing is no different.
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    General post:

    A) Migrants are net contributors to public finances. By and large. Especially EU migrants. There are several studies on this but I doubt anyone has ever read any of it.
    B) Most people who're pro-immigration don't think that the government should provide food, housing, etc to migrants. Rather the argument is that IF someone can find a home and a job to support himself, he ought to be able to migrate anywhere in the world (not just the UK).
    C) Refugees are not migrants. They're in a different category as they don't have a choice whether to remain in their country or move abroad. Thus the government does have a responsibility to take care of them until their home is safe for them to return (as they must).
 
 
 
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