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    You wont convert anyone to anything if you talk to them like that, i personally eat meat and i have a friend who is vegan (shocker the two sides can get along) and the reason we work as friends is because neither of us try and force our views on the other, we respect eachother decisions
    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    Good for you. You are obviously too narrow minded and too set on eating meat to bother wasting time on. I will save my efforts trying to convert someone to Veganism who has half a brain. Good day to you Sir
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    Judging by your above post, you are a lost cause. I will not waste my time explaining to you how wrong you are. Do a simple google search and you will find a plethora of information countering your above opinions.
    (Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes)
    Veganism is SOO healthy, it's one of the purest ways of living for you. It's pure nutrient rich food. people seem to assume it's one leaf for breakfast,another for lunch and 2 for dinner. That isn't the case. It's easy to eat in abundance on a vegan diet because you need to consume more and the more you eat, the more you get from your food. That isn't the case with meat and dairy products, I'm sorry but it's not.
    I think you're both missing my point. As a non vegan, you can have the exact same diet as a vegan, only you can eat meat as well. Therefor, being a vegan cannot possibly be healthier than being an omnivore. Of Course, unless you're saying that all meat and dairy is bad for you and that humans have been wrong all this time.
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    (Original post by LaMandarine)
    I bet Green Peace teaches you that polar bears are cute. Guess what, if you were even in a 5 km radius away from it in the Arctic, it will not think twice to hunt you down (if you're the only accessible source of food within that distance).

    Also, male polar bears will kill the cubs of a mother in order to assure his own progeny. Isn't that cute?

    I'll make you a deal. You go and persuade a lion to stop eating meat, and I will live the rest of my life on beans and cry.
    You are neither a polar bear or lion. These are wild animals and they don't live in heated houses like we do. How can you possibly compare yourself to these animals?

    These animals kill because they need to, to live. You eat meat because you want to, not because you need to. Fundamental difference. To be honest I don't care if I don't win you over with my pro vegan arguments. You seem like a lost cause who loves meat too much and isn't receptive to logical arguments based either on moral or environmental reasons, so I won't waste my time replying to you anymore.

    Good day to you madam.
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    (Original post by BekahMay)
    True, most people do assume that because our ancestors eat meat we must have to yet decide that other aspects of their lives were wrong
    Could i ask why youre vegan rather than vegetarian? I know there is still alit of ethical issies with alot of animal products but say for example free range eggs do you have any issue with them?
    Often the reason for people being vegan is because the egg/dairy industry leads to other things which are very cruel to animals. Since male chickens cannot be bread for meat (they fight each other) and because they don't produce eggs, 99% of the male chickens which are born while breeding hens for the egg industry are killed at birth. There are videos you can find of how they do it too, they just put them into a big grinder. With dairy, male cows are prevented from moving and killed while they are young (veal) because they cannot produce milk.

    Although consuming eggs and dairy may seem innocent, if you take a good look at the industry it might change your opinion. Also, free range changes very little (you can look up the conditions to be classed as 'free range' aka slightly bigger cage).

    I don't mean to come off as rude or anything, I'm not vegan myself however I think it is important for people to know why people are vegan.
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    (Original post by york_wbu)
    Are you deluded?



    Veganism isn't healthy, it's total bull****. You can have a balanced vegan diet that is somewhat healthy but equally, if you ate dairy and meat, you could have a balanced diet that is much healthier.



    Eating eggs is natural and healthy. They are one of the most nutritious foods you can eat. Don't listen to the stupid vegan.
    I will listen to who i want and vegans arent stupid, i know they are nutritional i even ate one for breakfast this morning and i probably will tomorrow but i dont claim to be an egg expert so for all i know they do have quite big fat content
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    Its okay, youre not as rude as some people on here i do know about the ethical bits of the dairy insustry hence i only asked about free range eggs
    I didnt realise about the free range egg requirements though so thanks for that
    (Original post by Louisb19)
    Often the reason for people being vegan is because the egg/dairy industry leads to other things which are very cruel to animals. Since male chickens cannot be bread for meat (they fight each other) and because they don't produce eggs, 99% of the male chickens which are born while breeding hens for the egg industry are killed at birth. There are videos you can find of how they do it too, they just put them into a big grinder. With dairy, male cows are prevented from moving and killed while they are young (veal) because they cannot produce milk.

    Although consuming eggs and dairy may seem innocent, if you take a good look at the industry it might change your opinion. Also, free range changes very little (you can look up the conditions to be classed as 'free range' aka slightly bigger cage).

    I don't mean to come off as rude or anything, I'm not vegan myself however I think it is important for people to know why people are vegan.
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    (Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes)
    My favourite quote is "If slaughterhouses were made out of glass, nobody would eat meat" something along those lines
    This is very true. The horrors that take place in factory farms and slaughterhouses are unimaginable...
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    (Original post by LaMandarine)
    I bet Green Peace teaches you that polar bears are cute. Guess what, if you were even in a 5 km radius away from it in the Arctic, it will not think twice to hunt you down (if you're the only accessible source of food within that distance).

    Also, male polar bears will kill the cubs of a mother in order to assure his own progeny. Isn't that cute?

    I'll make you a deal. You go and persuade a lion to stop eating meat, and I will live the rest of my life on beans and cry.
    I'm personally fine with hunting, it is part of nature. However torturing and killing 200 billion animals (more than 20 times the human population) per YEAR seems to be far far from lions eating meat.
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    It's just a quote (1). Doesn't change the fact that i'm a vegan and am not taking part in an industry which causes suffering to animals. Even if Pythagoras sucked pigs as you claim, so what?(2) Doesn't change the fact that I find meat eaters to be savages on the same level as rapists, murderers and paedophiles.(3) You people have no compassion and you disgust me.
    With regard to 1)
    I will use one of your recent quotes to dismantle that

    Judging by your above post, you are a lost cause. I will not waste my time explaining to you how oblivious you are. Do a simple google search and you will find a plethora of information countering your above opinions.

    With regard to (2) Honey, he didn't suck pigs. He loved suckling pigs, i.e.pigs that were not yet weaned. That's right, he loved taking them from their mama's bosom and roast them whole.

    With regard to (3). Jesus **** Christ. No comment, you are a lost cause.

    Lastly, nobody has a problem with you being vegan, vegetarian or whatever, regardless of your motifs. You can even use old Pythagoras' quote (even though it's a funny contradiction, given that he was not the Jesus of vegetarians as he is often preached) in support of your reasons, just don't diss your other kin for not doing the same. We are omnivores by nature, so deal with it, or become an antelope and be vegan by nature.
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    (Original post by BekahMay)
    You wont convert anyone to anything if you talk to them like that, i personally eat meat and i have a friend who is vegan (shocker the two sides can get along) and the reason we work as friends is because neither of us try and force our views on the other, we respect eachother decisions
    I have non-vegan friends too (most of them are non-vegan). I don't go on about how savage meat-eaters are in real life (mostly, unless asked for an opinion), only on the internet (mostly). Yes they can co-exist side by side, but meat-eaters seriously need to open their eyes as to where their food comes from and become more compassionate. Eating meat, cheese, eggs and drinking milk is cruel and inhumane.
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    (Original post by Yellow 03)
    This is very true. The horrors that take place in factory farms and slaughterhouses are unimaginable...
    I agree. I remember watching a video of it, I don't actually know how I came to watching it but I did, that night I decided it was disgusting and I wouldn't touch meet again. I never did and I never will.
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    (Original post by BekahMay)
    I will listen to who i want and vegans arent stupid, i know they are nutritional i even ate one for breakfast this morning and i probably will tomorrow but i dont claim to be an egg expert so for all i know they do have quite big fat content
    I didn't say vegans are stupid, I said she was stupid.
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    (Original post by Louisb19)
    I'm personally fine with hunting, it is part of nature. However torturing and killing 200 billion animals (more than 20 times the human population) per YEAR seems to be far far from lions eating meat.
    I agree with you. We are overfishing and overproducing meat, and what some companies do to animals is atrocious, but let us not forget, not all farmers are the same. The idea to criminalise them all based on several videos of what others are doing is unfair.
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    (Original post by Louisb19)
    Often the reason for people being vegan is because the egg/dairy industry leads to other things which are very cruel to animals. Since male chickens cannot be bread for meat (they fight each other) and because they don't produce eggs, 99% of the male chickens which are born while breeding hens for the egg industry are killed at birth. There are videos you can find of how they do it too, they just put them into a big grinder. With dairy, male cows are prevented from moving and killed while they are young (veal) because they cannot produce milk.

    Although consuming eggs and dairy may seem innocent, if you take a good look at the industry it might change your opinion. Also, free range changes very little (you can look up the conditions to be classed as 'free range' aka slightly bigger cage).

    I don't mean to come off as rude or anything, I'm not vegan myself however I think it is important for people to know why people are vegan.
    (Original post by BekahMay)
    I will listen to who i want and vegans arent stupid, i know they are nutritional i even ate one for breakfast this morning and i probably will tomorrow but i dont claim to be an egg expert so for all i know they do have quite big fat content
    I refer you guys to the thread I made about eggs a few days ago:

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...1#post60082111

    Please watch that video on the first post.
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    (Original post by Yellow 03)
    This is very true. The horrors that take place in factory farms and slaughterhouses are unimaginable...
    Also I have no doubt there are psychopaths working in those slaughterhouses, much like this disgusting excuse for a human being.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...slaughterhouse

    How can you hurt an animal like that? what gives you the right to do that to a poor animal? just for the sake of food and your own pleasure.
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    I have non-vegan friends too (most of them are non-vegan). I don't go on about how savage meat-eaters are in real life, only on the internet. Yes they can co-exist side by side, but meat-eaters seriously need to open their eyes as to where their food comes from and become more compassionate.
    If you wouldnt do it in person you shouldnt online, there is still a person behind the screen whom youre accusing of being as bad as a rapist or paedophile even if that is what you believe
    I am personally quite compasionate if i say so myself and i really dont think that eating meat takes away from that but thats just my opinion
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    (Original post by LaMandarine)
    I agree with you. We are overfishing and overproducing meat, and what some companies do to animals is atrocious, but let us not forget, not all farmers are the same. The idea to criminalise them all based on several videos of what others are doing is unfair.
    Yeah I'm with you! I think that what a lot of local farmers do is fine and that it is true 'free range'. The reason I am vegetarian is because this is such a small part of the meat industry in reality. I know that being me being vegetarian isn't going to change anything but not supporting the industry makes me feel better inside. It's hard for me to see people who eat meat as evil like some in this thread do, just a different perspective morally I guess.
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    (Original post by BekahMay)
    If you wouldnt do it in person you shouldnt online, there is still a person behind the screen whom youre accusing of being as bad as a rapist or paedophile even if that is what you believe
    I am personally quite compasionate if i say so myself and i really dont think that eating meat takes away from that but thats just my opinion
    Don't get me wrong, I also try to get across my vegan view in real life, but to a lesser extent, and not to my eat eating friends, unless they specifically ask me why I became vegan. It's just easier online with various sources to hand etc.

    Also I don't believe you can call yourself compassionate because you eat meat. Eating meat and compassion are mutually exclusive; you can either eat meat and not be compassionate, or not eat meat and be compassionate. If you believe you are a compassionate meat-eater then you are a hypocrite. Just think about it. Animals bleed and die and are tortured and feel pain so you can eat them. Is that really compassion?
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    I refer you guys to the thread I made about eggs a few days ago:

    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...1#post60082111

    Please watch that video on the first post.
    Im not going to watch the video, i know what happens to the animals and coincedentaly had to watch a video in philosophy on the subject
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    (Original post by BekahMay)
    If you wouldnt do it in person you shouldnt online, there is still a person behind the screen whom youre accusing of being as bad as a rapist or paedophile even if that is what you believe
    I am personally quite compasionate if i say so myself and i really dont think that eating meat takes away from that but thats just my opinion
    I think it does to be honest, don't you think it's immoral to do ^ (what I just posted) to an animal? if you don't, you're not compassionate.

    Even if the animals are being killed in a 'painless' way (not true...but anyway) how do you feel putting a living being who is aware of it's surroundings in the situation where it knows it's just moments away from it's death. Then you eat it? If you do that and say your compassionate, you are wrong!
 
 
 
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