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    (Original post by Studentteacher01)
    Hey not a dental student just saw your post wanted to ask you what's your best advice for healthy teeth ?? 😃
    FLOSS YOUR TEETH ONCE A DAY...SERIOUSLY JUST DO IT! (google for proper technique)

    Brush properly (google modified bass technique) with an electric toothbrush and a fluoride toothpaste.

    Limit your sugar intake to a maximum of 6 occasions a day.

    Mouthwash after meals.

    Visit your dentist every six months or more often as appropriate.

    When brushing...spit...but don't rinse.
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    FLOSS YOUR TEETH ONCE A DAY...SERIOUSLY JUST DO IT!

    Brush properly (google modified bass technique) with an electric toothbrush and a fluoride toothpaste.

    Limit your sugar intake to a maximum of 6 occasions a day.

    Mouthwash after meals.

    When brushing...spit...but don't rinse.
    Thank you . . .I seriously noted it all down in my notebook super helpful to have these tips
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    (Original post by Studentteacher01)
    Thank you . . .I seriously noted it all down in my notebook super helpful to have these tips
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    Glad you found them useful
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    Hey there, we have what's called DF1 (dental foundation 1) which is immediately post graduation. After this there are a few different careers paths open. You can stay in general practice, then specialise a few years later (or not), you can go back to hospital and start DCT1,2,3 which are hospital rotations in restorative, paeds, oral/maxfax etc.

    Personally i always wanted to be a maxfax surgeon, however things are changing a but now and i'm thinking that perhaps i'd like to specialise in restorative or something. I'm not 100% on whether or not i want to own my own practice yet, i'm not sure if the stress is worth it or not.

    In first year it's 9-5 lectures which are more or less identical to the medics, all basic sciences and anatomy etc. usually around 5/6 lectures 5 days a week.

    2nd year is different, lectures about 2 days a week with much more emphasis on pathology and disease. We start in the labs and seeing patients in this year.

    3rd year is lectures one day a week with much more emphasis on learning the science and art of dentistry, you see many more patients.

    4th year the focus is mainly on patients, we have one morning a week of lectures and the rest is clinics and labs

    5th year is much the same as 4th year but with more patients and higher expectations.

    In terms of the time needed...i'm very very busy, this week just gone...i was in by 8am every day and didn't leave before 6pm each night. Tuesday i had to work through lunch. When you have patients, your responsibilities are much more pressing and you have to grow up into a clinician very quickly, i feel like medics don't really appreciate this sometimes.

    Money was an aspect yes, as it is with ANY job. Money is basically the only reason that anyone works, we need money to live. I always find it really weird when people ask if i only did dentistry for the money, i sortof feel like saying.. do you ask the person who serves in the supermarket why they took that job etc. It feels like sometimes in healthcare that we should be ashamed of being paid well because we provide a health service and the perception in this country is that because healthcare should be free that people should not make good sums of money from it.

    When people say did you only do dentistry for the money, it feels like what they are really saying is. "there is no reason to study dentistry other than the money" and "you earn lots of money and i don't think that the job you perform deserves it" for example, people never say the same sort of thing to doctors for some reason, even though we train for the same amount of time and share a lot of common ground.

    I also happen to really enjoy dentistry and find it a really exceptionally fulfilling career that appeals to me on a number of levels, emotionally, creatively and financially. I would still study dentistry even if it were an average pay.

    EDIT: I'm aware parts of this sound quite ranty, but on behalf of all dental students i wanted to address in a public forum something that i've been asked/accused of a fair few times.

    Hi thanks for your comprehensive reply.
    It seems interesting and similar to most medicine courses in that you start of mostly learning anatomy, pathology etc and then patient contact comes later on in the course as competence develops.

    My cousin graduated from Birmingham a couple years back and is now specialising in periodontology and was telling me how expensive and sometimes difficult it can be to specialise.

    Maxfax sounds awesome dude. I shadowed a friend of mine who's a dental grad and was doing an SHO in maxfax and he was really making the concept of oral and maxillofacial surgery sound interesting. But it does require a dual degree of both medicine and dentistry and I don't think it matters much which order you do them.

    Wow 8am-6pm that requires tremendous responsibility, tenacity and dexterity

    Please don't take it the wrong way, the only reason I asked is because I know a Dentist nearby whom I shadowed and he was on a very nice three figure salary.
    Even for medicine obviously money and financial incentive is important simply because of the years of hard work put into the profession and everyone wants a stable financial career at the end of the day.

    But one thing I learnt in medicine and just as much in Dentistry is the importance of people skills and maintaining a sense of trust and good communication with your patient and like you say in both professions you have to be passionate and find the job fullfilling.

    As a medic I have huge respect for Dentists
    (Their just Doctors who happen to specialise earlier)
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    (Original post by futuremedic19)
    Hi thanks for your comprehensive reply.
    It seems interesting and similar to most medicine courses in that you start of mostly learning anatomy, pathology etc and then patient contact comes later on in the course as competence develops.

    My cousin graduated from Birmingham a couple years back and is now specialising in periodontology and was telling me how expensive and sometimes difficult it can be to specialise.

    Maxfax sounds awesome dude. I shadowed a friend of mine who's a dental grad and was doing an SHO in maxfax and he was really making the concept of oral and maxillofacial surgery sound interesting. But it does require a dual degree of both medicine and dentistry and I don't think it matters much which order you do them.

    Wow 8am-6pm that requires tremendous responsibility, tenacity and dexterity

    Please don't take it the wrong way, the only reason I asked is because I know a Dentist nearby whom I shadowed and he was on a very nice three figure salary.
    Even for medicine obviously money and financial incentive is important simply because of the years of hard work put into the profession and everyone wants a stable financial career at the end of the day.

    But one thing I learnt in medicine and just as much in Dentistry is the importance of people skills and maintaining a sense of trust and good communication with your patient and like you say in both professions you have to be passionate and find the job fullfilling.

    As a medic I have huge respect for Dentists
    (Their just Doctors who happen to specialise earlier)
    Oh right, best of luck to both you and your brother!

    I just want to say that i absolutely took no offense from your questions about money, i just wanted to expand a bit on my answer and talk with a bit of context about what i've been asked before now!

    Cheers,
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    Personally i always wanted to be a maxfax surgeon, however things are changing a but now and i'm thinking that perhaps i'd like to specialise in restorative or something. I'm not 100% on whether or not i want to own my own practice yet, i'm not sure if the stress is worth it or not.

    Why do you not want to be a max fax surgeon anymore?
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    As the title says - ask anything you like!
    I saw your other thread, you study at Bart's, right? What are the outreach clinics like? That was one of the main reasons I applied to QMUL.
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    Hello Kartace

    so what is the coolest thing of studying dentistry? is barts a cool place? i hope to be able to study there one day .sorry for the weird questions... :P
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    how competitive is dentistry in the Uk?
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    What did you do for A levels, and what did you get?

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    Hi there, this is such a great thread! I'm hoping to study dentistry and would love to apply to QMUL. Although I was wondering how pricey it is to live in London, as I know housing can be super expensive!
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    Why do you not want to be a max fax surgeon anymore?
    It's not that I don't want to, It's more that I have a more open mind now. I initially went into dentistry with the idea that I was definitely going to become a maxfax surgeon, However, since doing some more practical dentistry I've actually found that I really enjoy some of the more cosmetic procedures and restorative dentistry in general.

    Aside from the fact that I quite enjoy dentistry It's also a matter of work life balance and self-determination. I like the idea of being my own boss and having a degree of flexibility in my working life. The training pathway for maxfax, although not as long as most people think it is, is still not insignificant. It requires absolute commitment and the dedication of a lot of time and effort, not to mention money!

    So, basically I haven't ruled out maxfax as a career, I'd like to go back after my DFY1 year and do some work in a hospital service where i can experience some maxfax as well as other dental specialties. I think this should help to crystallise my feelings about what i want to do.

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    What did you do for A levels, and what did you get?

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    Chemistry A
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    (Original post by Euan1603)
    Hi there, this is such a great thread! I'm hoping to study dentistry and would love to apply to QMUL. Although I was wondering how pricey it is to live in London, as I know housing can be super expensive!
    Hey there, great to hear that you're considering coming to Barts. I absolutely love it here and I'd recommend it to anyone considering studying dentistry!

    As for London, there's no easy way to put it really. London is expensive, very expensive. In my opinion it's the premium you pay for being taught at the two most prestigious and in my humble opinion two best dental schools in the UK (Barts and Kings) . The patient population in the east end of london is really very diverse and you will see things here that you definitely wouldn't at other universities as an undergraduate. Tower Hamlets has some of the highest levels of dental disease and overall deprivation in Britain.

    In terms of just how much you'll be forking out for this privilege. I live about 2 mins from uni and pay (a fairly reasonable) 135 a week. Some people pay up to 200 a week and some are as low as 110. Generally speaking the further out you move the cheaper it is and the more you get for your money. Food and drink and going out is also much more expensive. Get used to buying a pint and not seeing much change out of a fiver...same goes for coffee etc.!

    There are scholarships available though, I'm on one called the John Abernathy Scholarship - this covers full tuition fees, so that's a big help obviously! There are also bursaries available from QMUL and an NHS bursary in the 5th year.

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    (Original post by Kartace)
    There are scholarships available though, I'm on one called the John Abernathy Scholarship - this covers full tuition fees, so that's a big help obviously! There are also bursaries available from QMUL and an NHS bursary in the 5th year.

    Ryan.
    How'd you get that John Abernathy Scholarship?
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    It's not that I don't want to, It's more that I have a more open mind now. I initially went into dentistry with the idea that I was definitely going to become a maxfax surgeon, However, since doing some more practical dentistry I've actually found that I really enjoy some of the more cosmetic procedures and restorative dentistry in general.

    Aside from the fact that I quite enjoy dentistry It's also a matter of work life balance and self-determination. I like the idea of being my own boss and having a degree of flexibility in my working life. The training pathway for maxfax, although not as long as most people think it is, is still not insignificant. It requires absolute commitment and the dedication of a lot of time and effort, not to mention money!

    So, basically I haven't ruled out maxfax as a career, I'd like to go back after my DFY1 year and do some work in a hospital service where i can experience some maxfax as well as other dental specialties. I think this should help to crystallise my feelings about what i want to do.

    Ryan.
    If you were to go down the max fax route, how old would you be compared to if you otherwise specialised in restorative when you fully qualify?
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    (Original post by Raaaas)
    How'd you get that John Abernathy Scholarship?
    I got the highest marks in my first year exams.
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    (Original post by Kartace)
    I got the highest marks in my first year exams.
    Wow, that's amazing, is this something that's only at Barts?
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    (Original post by Raaaas)
    Wow, that's amazing, is this something that's only at Barts?
    Thank you and I'm not sure to be honest, I'm certain that other universities have their own scholarships but I don't know the details of them I'm afraid!
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    If I didn't take biology A level, is there any university I can apply if I take out a gap year?
    I'm currently studying chemistry, maths and psychology at A level

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