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    *maternity. Women aren't in high ranking positions because it's only recently that women have had the courage to challenge male authority and actually stand up for themselves
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    Are men and women equal?

    In terms of intellectual ability? No (though different fortes.)
    In terms of physical ability? No.
    (Resulting in...) in terms of opportunity? No.
    In terms of institution/law? No.
    In terms of respect? Both should be.
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    Are men and women equal?

    In terms of intellectual ability? No (though different fortes.)
    In terms of physical ability? No.
    (Resulting in...) in terms of opportunity? No.
    In terms of institution/law? No.
    In terms of respect? Both should be.
    In terms of intellectual capability? Yes (though generally, women are kept in the shadows more therefore not pushed to what they can actually achieve)
    In terms of physical capability? Men have evolved to be dominant but that doesn't mean that women can't be
    In terms of opportunity? All opportunities are available to both sexes however some are considered "appropriate" for specific genders
    In terms of gender? I agree that both should be, but aren't due to popular stereotypes and social convention.
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    Ffs not this again
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    (Original post by Harriett071)
    Not all boys do sports and even an overweight man at 30, who has never played sport in his life, could start going the gym and change his diet and get stronger and still be stronger than a woman. Boys are genetically stronger than girls and so they should be.
    Why should they be? So they can rape and murder women easily?
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    (Original post by kristen2)
    Why should they be? So they can rape and murder women easily?
    It is man's morals and intent that leads to those crimes, not his strength. Just because he is strong, that does not mean he will commit such awful acts. It is people like you that depict all men as enemies that has caused feminism to be the mockery it is today. Get a grip and understand that wanting men to be weaker than you, is not better than the actual misogyny that exists today.
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    (Original post by Harriett071)
    Not all boys do sports and even an overweight man at 30, who has never played sport in his life, could start going the gym and change his diet and get stronger and still be stronger than a woman. Boys are genetically stronger than girls and so they should be.
    Why should they be?? Just because men have adapted to be the more muscular gender, doesn't mean a woman can't be stronger.
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    (Original post by Escobar1201)
    Why should they be?? Just because men have adapted to be the more muscular gender, doesn't mean a woman can't be stronger.
    Women on the whole, cannot be stronger than men, if you have a particularly weak man and a strong woman, then she can be. But I don't like weak men.
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    (Original post by Harriett071)
    Women on the whole, cannot be stronger than men, if you have a particularly weak man and a strong woman, then she can be. But I don't like weak men.
    Just because you don't like weak men, doesn't mean they don't exist, or there are less of them. Part of my understanding of humanity is that society has labelled, condemned and supported so many beliefs incorrectly that we can no longer accept natural variations in our own species. Apparently, you're a perfect example of that as you simply refuse to accept that although women are not openly particularly 'strong', they are more than capable of being as strong, if not stronger than men.
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    (Original post by Escobar1201)
    Just because you don't like weak men, doesn't mean they don't exist, or there are less of them. Part of my understanding of humanity is that society has labelled, condemned and supported so many beliefs incorrectly that we can no longer accept natural variations in our own species. Apparently, you're a perfect example of that as you simply refuse to accept that although women are not openly particularly 'strong', they are more than capable of being as strong, if not stronger than men.
    I'm aware weak men exist, I've met plenty. Women are less capable of being as strong, there may be some exceptions, but on the whole women are the weaker in regards to strength and handling their emotions
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    (Original post by Harriett071)
    I'm aware weak men exist, I've met plenty. Women are less capable of being as strong, there may be some exceptions, but on the whole women are the weaker in regards to strength and handling their emotions
    Women are known as being the weaker sex generally, but that doesn't make it fact. Women are forced by nature to be stronger, especially in handling their emotions and are capable of being stronger regarding their physical strength
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    I can't believe this is being debated in 2015.
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    (Original post by Escobar1201)
    Women are known as being the weaker sex generally, but that doesn't make it fact. Women are forced by nature to be stronger, especially in handling their emotions and are capable of being stronger regarding their physical strength
    No the fact that a woman's genetics makes her weaker is what makes it a fact. I'm done with this argument, beyond pointless
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    (Original post by dradoo)
    men > women

    women get preggers and are a burden on businesses and society. Men are fitter and stronger too. Women are dumb.
    What a load of bull. If women didn't give birth how would men even exist?
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    (Original post by kristen2)
    Why should they be? So they can rape and murder women easily?
    Perhaps so they can use that strength to aid women, entertain women (and other men) and improve the lives of humans in society in general?
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    It depends on what's being measured.
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    No. Just as another woman isn't equal to me. It depends on our skills, opportunities, and outlook on life etc. No one is equal because everyone is different, both in themselves and experiences.
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    (Original post by NathanDYEL)
    Just like how in a pack of wolves the physically superior one is the leader, men are physically stronger than woman, so are greater
    Because people are essentially the same as wolves.
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    Personally I always believe men and women should be equal.
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    (Original post by TorpidPhil)
    Perhaps so they can use that strength to aid women, entertain women (and other men) and improve the lives of humans in society in general?
    Why would we do that? We get little in return for the 70% of state taxation which is a transfer from men to women. Women have forced us to become their unwilling husbands through the power of the state and have used their (our) resources to undermine is, get the state to discriminate against us in hiring and wages (women in their 30s get 20% more for doing the same work as men), and (successfully) argued for the essential criminalisation of male sexuality, or maleness is general (under the guise of health and safety, or "anti-discrimination").

    The state and social democracy is a wealth extraction tool, and it's primary function at this point is to funnel resources into the hands of undeserving women, (and of course, the bureaucrats who benefit the most.)

    Until a woman does something materially significant for me, like become a housewife, or bear my children and not run off with them, I am going to do nothing for her.

    MGTOW.
 
 
 
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