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- 08-11-2015 21:47
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- 08-11-2015 22:50
(Original post by JD1lla)
- 10-11-2015 00:18
...Because you're 105kg?
Firstly the guy is a severely underweight climber. A lot of climbers I know have a physique like his (he posted a picture of his body in another thread); very lean, clearly there is muscle mass, but not a lot of it, and are great at pullups etc.
You'll very rarely get some Frank Medrano type of guy at 100+kg. Strength/weight ratios etc.
(Frank Medrano is around 75kg and 32 years old)... Anyway go look around on YT you'll see that most people doing 1 rep or more of pullups with 30kg are 70kg+.Last edited by Reety; 10-11-2015 at 00:19.
(Original post by Reety)
- 10-11-2015 03:48
So doesn't that mean he wouldn't be able to lift over 50% of his body mass... Really don't know what point you're trying to make here..
(Frank Medrano is around 75kg and 32 years old)... Anyway go look around on YT you'll see that most people doing 1 rep or more of pullups with 30kg are 70kg+.
My point is strength/weight ratioLast edited by JD1lla; 10-11-2015 at 04:02.
- 10-11-2015 18:07
(Original post by Reety)
- 10-11-2015 18:21
Yeah completely did not read my post then. I was saying that I was surprised that he could do 2 reps of pull-ups with 30kg strapped to him... Then compared him to me.. of my strength and weight.. and I've been training for 4 years...
He is approx 55kg, lifting 30kg. That's 85kg.
You are 100kg + 30kg, 130kg pull ups.
I don't see why this would surprise you? If he said he deadlifts the same as you, that would be different.
He is a climber. A huge proportion of his training would consist of pull up/pull up like movements.
- 10-11-2015 18:54
For pull-ups (where leverages don't come into play unlike other BW exercises), unless you're extremely heavy/fat then relative strength ratios don't change that much between varying BWs. It's mainly the total weight that varies dramatically between heavier and lighter BWs.
The strongest pullers I know are 90-100kg, including the guinness world record which is something like BW+100kg @ 100kg (200kg total) or slightly less (can't remember). There was also another guy I saw who did one arm chin +10kg @ 90kg, so basically BW+20kg when equated two-arm weighted variations. Which is madness.
Point is that you could find a 100kg person who can do BW+100kg (= 200kg total and 1xBW)
but you absolutely could not find someone who is 70kg who can do BW+100kg (let alone BW+130kg for the same 200kg total as above). Just not physiologically possible. MAYBE BW+84kg (=154kg total and 1.2xBW), but that'd be rare.
So if you're heavier than you should be capable of a higher total than a lighter person. But if you're lighter then you should be capable of a slightly better ratio.
But it's not anywhere near 4xBW versus 2xBW like some people seem to think. Maybe 1.2xBW vs 1.0xBW for the 70kg vs 100kg comparison.
- 10-11-2015 18:56
Obviously it depends on the exercise. It could be 4xBW vs 2xBW for some.