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    Forget that idea, just spoke to the uni and apparently id need the access course and an a level to cover the ucas points, 200 for MEng foundation and 300 for the MEng.

    What is the difference between credits and points?
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Forget that idea, just spoke to the uni and apparently id need the access course and an a level to cover the ucas points, 200 for MEng foundation and 300 for the MEng.

    What is the difference between credits and points?
    All qualifications can ultimately be converted to UCAS points.

    So an A* at A-level is 140 points, an A is 120, B 100, C 80, etc
    For AS-level (if not then taken to A2) it's A 60, B 50, etc
    BTEC National Diploma (eg Access to HE) goes from 360 (DDD where D=Distinction) to 80 (PPP where P=Pass)

    So this means a DDD in Access to HE is equivalent to AAA at A-level.

    Therefore 200 points is equivalent to 2 B's at A-level
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Forget that idea, just spoke to the uni and apparently id need the access course and an a level to cover the ucas points, 200 for MEng foundation and 300 for the MEng.

    What is the difference between credits and points?
    Don't do a distance course for maths. They cost like 300+ some even 600+ when you can teach yourself with a good textbook and practice.
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    (Original post by RiskVsReward)
    Don't do a distance course for maths. They cost like 300+ some even 600+ when you can teach yourself with a good textbook and practice.
    And get good support from the Maths forum on TSR
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    (Original post by RiskVsReward)
    Don't do a distance course for maths. They cost like 300+ some even 600+ when you can teach yourself with a good textbook and practice.
    Interesting because i am very close to parting with £1200.00 for two a-level courses, how does one do this then?

    How do you go about getting work marked etc?

    *edit - just been having a read, i really don't think i could self teach tbh, that seems a bit of a stretch! I would have no idea where to begin, would i not benefit from a "package deal" so to speak?
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    **second edit - if i was to consider doing this, what would i need and where would i get it?, do i settle on an examiner i.e.: edexel and then buy their books? if so which ones? How would i know what to learn?
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    **second edit - if i was to consider doing this, what would i need and where would i get it?, do i settle on an examiner i.e.: edexel and then buy their books? if so which ones? How would i know what to learn?
    Just go on amazon and search for AS/A2 Maths edexel.

    You know that them long distance course is exactly the same as teaching yourself? They just give you a tiny bit of help which you could easily get by posting your questions here.
    Just go through the books, do past papers and ask questions here. You can also do it alongside your current job.
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    **second edit - if i was to consider doing this, what would i need and where would i get it?, do i settle on an examiner i.e.: edexel and then buy their books? if so which ones? How would i know what to learn?
    Yep - Edexcel is a good one to pick.

    Select your 6 modules - you must do the 4 core modules, plus 2 applied.
    i.e. C1-4, M1-2 (M modules are best for engineering)

    You then buy one textbook per module and work through the book. You can post any questions you have on the TSR Maths forum for guidance.
    e.g. C1
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0435519107/

    There's also the CGP books (get these in addition to the textbooks)
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/AS-Level-Ede...dp/1847625800/

    Also http://www.examsolutions.co.uk/

    BUT I'm not an expert on this. The guys in the Maths forum will probably have better ideas

    Also a full a-level in 6 months is A LOT OF WORK...
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    Im starting to realise that, also according to uclan id need two a levels at a B to get the points......practically impossible!
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Im starting to realise that, also according to uclan id need two a levels at a B to get the points......practically impossible!
    So.... do the Access in Sept 2016, to start uni MEng in Sept 2017. Do you have enough work to tide you over until then? Also you could start self-teaching Maths A-level now with a view to sitting it properly in June 2017. So you'd have the Access PLUS an A-level.

    Not ideal time wise, but I think the timing really is against you.
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    Thats the way its looking, i could if i really pushed do the access in Jan, but i would be starting a full time college course skint (ish) which isn't ideal!

    I think the access course is quite maths heavy anyway......link......http://www.preston.ac.uk/course/acce...ering-science/

    Is it possible to get 300 points from the above higher access diploma?

    Starting the access next september is looking an easier option, qualified by 2021!
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Thats the way its looking, i could if i really pushed do the access in Jan, but i would be starting a full time college course skint (ish) which isn't ideal!

    I think the access course is quite maths heavy anyway......link......http://www.preston.ac.uk/course/acce...ering-science/

    Is it possible to get 300 points from the above higher access diploma?

    Starting the access next september is looking an easier option, qualified by 2021!
    Yes I think so, but double check with Preston.

    It might be an idea to get the edexcel C1 and M1 books anyway just to give you a headstart.

    And this is a good Engineering Maths textbook (the 7th Edition is the latest but tends to be pricey)

    By K.A Stroud
    Engineering Mathematics 6th Edition

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=262131256702


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    Yes I think so, but double check with Preston.

    It might be an idea to get the edexcel C1 and M1 books anyway just to give you a headstart.

    And this is a good Engineering Maths textbook (the 7th Edition is the latest but tends to be pricey)

    By K.A Stroud
    Engineering Mathematics 6th Edition

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=262131256702


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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Thats the way its looking, i could if i really pushed do the access in Jan, but i would be starting a full time college course skint (ish) which isn't ideal!

    I think the access course is quite maths heavy anyway......link......http://www.preston.ac.uk/course/acce...ering-science/

    Is it possible to get 300 points from the above higher access diploma?

    Starting the access next september is looking an easier option, qualified by 2021!
    IMO I think you should carry on working for like a year or two longer and do this properly alongside it properly instead of rush it, what do you guys think?
    Like if you are in a rush to do it then fair play, but honestly you got to build up some grades because right now you haven't got much and get into this ready and proper.
    If you were younger and had nothing to do, I'd say go in ASAP but it seems you already have something to do in the meanwhile.
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    (Original post by RiskVsReward)
    IMO I think you should carry on working for like a year or two longer and do this properly alongside it properly instead of rush it, what do you guys think?
    Like if you are in a rush to do it then fair play, but honestly you got to build up some grades because right now you haven't got much and get into this ready and proper.
    If you were younger and had nothing to do, I'd say go in ASAP but it seems you already have something to do in the meanwhile.
    Starting the Access HE in Sept 2016 isn't rushing into it...
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Starting the Access HE in Sept 2016 isn't rushing into it...
    I didn't mean the access course lol I just meant generally. I agree with doing the access course.
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    Sorry, it does sound like I'm rushing....its just how i am, i need to get my head round things properly.

    I feel as though i have now, and i have pretty much settled on the access course next sept (thats if it starts then....email sent)

    Gives me enough time to sort other things out.

    I must admit this has been on my mind and knawing away at me for a good couple of years it feels good to have made a decision.

    I have a long lost uncle who i barely know, who i have done quite some work for over the years, he is a an architectural, structural, civil and geotechnical consulting engineer and he practices contract law alongside so deals with big construction tenders and projects......would a reference from him be accepted?

    He was married to my auntie around 20 odd years ago, so not really a relative at all.
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Sorry, it does sound like I'm rushing....its just how i am, i need to get my head round things properly.

    I feel as though i have now, and i have pretty much settled on the access course next sept (thats if it starts then....email sent)

    Gives me enough time to sort other things out.

    I must admit this has been on my mind and knawing away at me for a good couple of years it feels good to have made a decision.

    I have a long lost uncle who i barely know, who i have done quite some work for over the years, he is a an architectural, structural, civil and geotechnical consulting engineer and he practices contract law alongside so deals with big construction tenders and projects......would a reference from him be accepted?

    He was married to my auntie around 20 odd years ago, so not really a relative at all.
    Sorry but here I got no idea at all, I only know the conventional a-level route into unis and haven't much a clue how access courses and stuff work. Maybe someone else can give you better feedback. But for a reference I think maybe your employer can do it for you if you haven't been in education in a while, it doesn't have done by someone amazing!

    Also it's best if you quote someone as they will see you have messaged them or else they may miss it!
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    (Original post by RiskVsReward)
    Sorry but here I got no idea at all, I only know the conventional a-level route into unis and haven't much a clue how access courses and stuff work. Maybe someone else can give you better feedback. But for a reference I think maybe your employer can do it for you if you haven't been in education in a while, it doesn't have done by someone amazing!

    Also it's best if you quote someone as they will see you have messaged them or else they may miss it!
    I see, i was just forward thinking to the uni application.....about my employer....ive never had a job, I've either been self employed or a company managing director since i was 17, so i have no-one like that for a reference!
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    Sorry, it does sound like I'm rushing....its just how i am, i need to get my head round things properly.

    I feel as though i have now, and i have pretty much settled on the access course next sept (thats if it starts then....email sent)

    Gives me enough time to sort other things out.

    I must admit this has been on my mind and knawing away at me for a good couple of years it feels good to have made a decision.

    I have a long lost uncle who i barely know, who i have done quite some work for over the years, he is a an architectural, structural, civil and geotechnical consulting engineer and he practices contract law alongside so deals with big construction tenders and projects......would a reference from him be accepted?

    He was married to my auntie around 20 odd years ago, so not really a relative at all.
    A reference for what? For university? If so then no your tutors at Preston would provide that. Unis want an academic reference.
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    (Original post by Denzel89)
    I see, i was just forward thinking to the uni application.....about my employer....ive never had a job, I've either been self employed or a company managing director since i was 17, so i have no-one like that for a reference!
    You can just give Ucas a call(if you are using them), see what they say. Maybe they won't require it or something. All I know only they have the real answer in this situation. I haven't started my Ucas yet but I am guessing you are going to need a buzzword to setup or something similar and will require like a school or something to do it. So you really should give them a call and explain your situation to them.
 
 
 
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