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    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    Countries with higher Muslim population

    *All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

    Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
    France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
    UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
    Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
    Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
    Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
    Spain - Madrid training bombings
    Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
    Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
    Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
    Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
    Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
    Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

    Countries with lower Muslim population

    *All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

    Poland - no serious attacks
    Latvia - no serious attacks
    Lithuania - no serious attacks
    Romania - no serious attacks
    Czech Republic - no serious attacks
    Slovakia - no serious attack
    Portugal - no serious attack
    Finland - no serious attack
    Iceland - no serious attack
    Hungary - no serious attack
    Armenia - no serious attack
    Malta - no serious attack

    Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

    *All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

    Turkey - numerous attacks
    Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
    Albania - see above

    Summary

    It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

    Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

    Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

    In short:

    1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

    2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

    3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

    The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.
    Truth has been said. Decent people would be better off if we nuked all the countries with extremely high population of ******(you know who) as USA nuked Hiroshima. And then force all the terrorist supporters and religion bashers into labour camps, so they would be useful for once in their lives until their early deaths from exhaustion.
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    Do those countries have generally low rates of immigration, and are their GDPs lower than that of countries with more muslims and more immigrants?
    Lower GDP doesn't mean a thing because thats just one metric in terms of life quality. I would rather live in a poorer country with all the essentials and feel safe than be richer living in a country where there is a higher risk factor to my safety. I would rather be poorer in Romania than richer in Turkey, given that i'm never going to be rich enough to be able to afford the types of security required to minimise the risk factors at play here.

    As it currently stands I live in a country where I earn a good wage, the cost of living is low, people are not violent, there is a virtually non existent threat of terror and people just want to have a good time and get on. I could never say all that about my life in the UK. People are divided in the UK, the threat of terror is real, the cost of living is high whilst wages have been compressed and almost every Friday night moronic idiots who cant handle their drink decide they want to go and fight everyone and look hard.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ons-well-being

    Keep deluding yourself that GDP is a key factor but it really isn't.
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    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    Lower GDP doesn't mean a thing because thats just one metric in terms of life quality. I would rather live in a poorer country with all the essentials and feel safe than be richer living in a country where there is a higher risk factor to my safety. I would rather be poorer in Romania than richer in Turkey, given that i'm never going to be rich enough to be able to afford the types of security required to minimise the risk factors at play here.

    As it currently stands I live in a country where I earn a good wage, the cost of living is low, people are not violent, there is a virtually non existent threat of terror and people just want to have a good time and get on. I could never say all that about my life in the UK. People are divided in the UK, the threat of terror is real, the cost of living is high whilst wages have been compressed and almost every Friday night moronic idiots who cant handle their drink decide they want to go and fight everyone and look hard.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ons-well-being

    Keep deluding yourself that GDP is a key factor but it really isn't.
    You don't understand what I'm saying. A lot of muslim countries have terrible standards of living for a whole host of reasons, and so a lot of muslims immigrate to other countries - muslim and non muslim. Those countries with higher GDPs and better legal systems are targeted by immigrants, muslim or non muslim. Over time, those countries build up large immigrant populations, which include large muslim populations - this is the case for most european countries with substantial muslim populations, except for france. Countries with lower standards of living (without regard to securit specifically) have lower numbers of immigrants, and therefore muslims, and this is not because muslims are barred from immigration and citizenship - check that up.
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    You don't understand what I'm saying. A lot of muslim countries have terrible standards of living for a whole host of reasons, and so a lot of muslims immigrate to other countries - muslim and non muslim. Those countries with higher GDPs and better legal systems are targeted by immigrants, muslim or non muslim. Over time, those countries build up large immigrant populations, which include large muslim populations - this is the case for most european countries with substantial muslim populations, except for france. Countries with lower standards of living (without regard to securit specifically) have lower numbers of immigrants, and therefore muslims, and this is not because muslims are barred from immigration and citizenship - check that up.
    Im not disputing any of that. However, I dispute the living standard argument. That may be a perception held by immigrants but its becoming less true by the day. The UK and France are turning into third world **** holes, and not only for the reasons discussed in relation to security and terrorism, but the actions of the governments who seem intent on fuelling that downward trend.
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    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    Im not disputing any of that. However, I dispute the living standard argument. That may be a perception held by immigrants but its becoming less true by the day. The UK and France are turning into third world **** holes, and not only for the reasons discussed in relation to security and terrorism, but the actions of the governments who seem intent on fuelling that downward trend.
    It's based on immigrant perception, not anything else, I agree.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    You do realise that countless of lives are lost everyday in the Middle East. Innocent people who are coming to Europe to flee the terrorists.
    Bombings in Iraq have become so normalised now that people don't even blink their eyes at it. Look at what happened yesterday in Lebanon. I know it hasn't gotten as much coverage. For them,these bombing and suicide attacks are a daily part of life. They are not the enemy
    It doesn't matter, stop the flow of Muslims in Europe.

    Every Muslim is a potential terrorist.
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    In fact, in the last five years, less than 2 percent of all terrorist attacks in the E.U. have been “religiously motivated.”In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in the EU. Two of them were “religiously motivated.” In 2012, there were 219 terrorist attacks in EU countries, six of them were “religiously motivated.”In 2011, not one of the 174 terrorist attacks in EU countries in 2011 were “affiliated or inspired” by terrorist organizations. 2010, 249 terrorist attacks, three of them were considered by Europol to be “Islamist.” In 2009, of 294 terrorist attacks, only one was related to Islamist militancy – though Europol added the caveat, “Islamist terrorists still aim to cause mass casualties.”Majority of terror attacks are perpetuated by separatist organizations in the EU , but are they brought to light by mainstream media? No , only terror attacks which have relation to Islam are.
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    (Original post by Ashtar)
    It doesn't matter, stop the flow of Muslims in Europe.

    Every Muslim is a potential terrorist.
    That's like saying every human is a potential killer.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    What about western intervention in the Middle East. That's also part of the problem
    This attack just now was in France. Not only did France not participate in Iraq, it was dead against it. Also France does not support Israel at The UN. On this basis it is clear to see that these attacks are not in retaliation to terrible crimes nations commit in Muslim nations, but rather what lunatic terrorists perceive to be terrible crimes.

    If not doing things like going into Iraq and backing Israel will help prevent terrorist attacks (as I think you're driving at) then how do you explain Paris? France got attacked anyway.
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    (Original post by TheThiefOfBagdad)
    I wonder what we'd find if you ran the numbers for the military expenditure of these countries in a middle eastern field of conflict...
    I won't claim to know the figures on expenditure but France did not participate in Iraq.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    I won't claim to know the figures on expenditure but France did not participate in Iraq.
    France sold arms to Iraq before and, iirc, during the Iran-Iraq war. That's bound to have annoyed a certain group of middle eastern people.
    While I understand that this was not your point I'm just mentioning it as part of my overall counter-argument to 'more Muslims = greater risk'.
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    (Original post by Fidus Achates)
    Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.
    Perhaps by the likes of Pamela Geller. By that standard just about every major city in Western Europe could be called the "Jihad capital of Europe".
 
 
 
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