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VA126 - Constitutional Amendment Amendment watch

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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I would imagine that should the rules of the game become skewed to favour certain political parties then that would be objectively detrimental to the MHoC in the fewer people would want to participate.
    And in the vast majority of cases these amendments would be laughed down, and it would be extremely unusual that this amendment caused such an amendment to pass if it would otherwise fail.

    It is an argument against the amendment. You said that if a majority of members wish to see a procedural change it should occur. I am pointing out that a majority of members is simply a majority of MPs, not of people who are affected by procedural changes. For example Party A may have 26 MPs but Party B may have 1 MP and 100 active members. I do not think A should dictate constitutional change to B (extreme figures used for clarity of meaning, not argumentum ad absurdum). Amendments are not political (they may be in RL but not in the MHoC) and therefore being politically popular (i.e. having lot's of MPs) is not what drives constitutional change (though it is of course what drives legislative change).
    How is this different from what happens under the present rule? All it does is change the portion of MPs who are needed for an amendment to pass, not whether the votes of MPs happen to be representative of the underlying distribution.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    And in the vast majority of cases these amendments would be laughed down, and it would be extremely unusual that this amendment caused such an amendment to pass if it would otherwise fail.


    How is this different from what happens under the present rule? All it does is change the portion of MPs who are needed for an amendment to pass, not whether the votes of MPs happen to be representative of the underlying distribution.
    It seems I saw this too late for my rebuttal to have any meaning, however I'm sure we'll be able to pick this up again one day.
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