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    I do not believe getting involved in the South China Sea situation is wise for this country. Is the money spend deploying ships to the Falklands a necessary step? I see no evidence that Argentina are planning to retake the island through non-diplomatic means.

    Is negotiating with Assad the best idea? Your Government has just put troops on the ground yet you now want to negotiate with this man? You have the troops their, why not use them. If their is evidence that specific war crimes have been committed by the Assad Regime, it is our duty to help the innocent civilians out.

    Finally I suggest this Statement is too little too late. The Government has had ample time to release statements, in stead it pushes them all out when a Vote of No Confidence is travelling through the house.
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    Is nobody else sensing something fishy when the government are increasing the defence budget by about 1% GDP after rejecting even RL spending as potentially excessive; fully backing trident with a significant portion of the government being unilateralist; advocating greater action in Syria when mere months ago most were adverse pretty much to even gentle prodding?!

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is nobody else sensing something fishy when the government are increasing the defence budget by about 1% GDP after rejecting even RL spending as potentially excessive; fully backing trident with a significant portion of the government being unilateralist; advocating greater action in Syria when mere months ago most were adverse pretty much to even gentle prodding?!

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    Something like trying to fight the MoNC, perhaps?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is nobody else sensing something fishy when the government are increasing the defence budget by about 1% GDP after rejecting even RL spending as potentially excessive; fully backing trident with a significant portion of the government being unilateralist; advocating greater action in Syria when mere months ago most were adverse pretty much to even gentle prodding?!

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    In fairness a lot of the Cabinet has changed.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Is nobody else sensing something fishy when the government are increasing the defence budget by about 1% GDP after rejecting even RL spending as potentially excessive; fully backing trident with a significant portion of the government being unilateralist; advocating greater action in Syria when mere months ago most were adverse pretty much to even gentle prodding?!

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    You really do have it in for the current government don't you?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    In fairness a lot of the Cabinet has changed.
    You're not doing too good at this neutrality thing.

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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    You really do have it in for the current government don't you?
    Not only the government, also extends to the greens UKIP socialists and half my own party if they're doing something silly or otherwise questionable

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You're not doing too good at this neutrality thing.

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    I only say because you're referencing a debate you had with me personally. I do not want my words stuck in other people's mouths.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not only the government, also extends to the greens UKIP socialists and half my own party if they're doing something silly or otherwise questionable

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    Have you ever considered an independent? You seem like one of the most, if not the most, active member in the MHoC. Then, you would be able to express your views without the worry of what your fellow party members think?
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I only say because you're referencing a debate you had with me personally. I do not want my words stuck in other people's mouths.
    And yet you were not the only person opposing the proposal, 23 others in fact did, and what major changes have there been to the government as a whole? A duper has been kicked out and an incompetent chancellor has fled, and you were promoted by your buddies, and a bunch of minor changes, overall things are rather the same.

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    I do not believe getting involved in the South China Sea situation is wise for this country. Is the money spend deploying ships to the Falklands a necessary step? I see no evidence that Argentina are planning to retake the island through non-diplomatic means.

    Is negotiating with Assad the best idea? Your Government has just put troops on the ground yet you now want to negotiate with this man? You have the troops their, why not use them. If their is evidence that specific war crimes have been committed by the Assad Regime, it is our duty to help the innocent civilians out.

    Finally I suggest this Statement is too little too late. The Government has had ample time to release statements, in stead it pushes them all out when a Vote of No Confidence is travelling through the house.
    We will not attack Assad as that would put us into a direct conflict with Russia which should be avoided.

    Also as has been noted this is a significant shift in government policy, it took a while for me to convince the government that my position was correct.
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    We will not attack Assad as that would put us into a direct conflict with Russia which should be avoided.

    Also as has been noted this is a significant shift in government policy, it took a while for me to convince the government that my position was correct.
    Did you 'convince' them by saying "am I right" 500 times?

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    Nowhere near as far as i would go however i'm impressed. The real question is whether all government colleagues are prepared to back this.
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    Nowhere near as far as i would go however i'm impressed. The real question is whether all government colleagues are prepared to back this.
    Surely if they don't they will be "convinced" to vote for it as this government seems to like doing

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And yet you were not the only person opposing the proposal, 23 others in fact did, and what major changes have there been to the government as a whole? A duper has been kicked out and an incompetent chancellor has fled, and you were promoted by your buddies, and a bunch of minor changes, overall things are rather the same.

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    I was thinking of the original proposal, made during my premiership. Since then there has been substantial change.

    'promoted by your buddies' - are you feeling unpopular?


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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I was thinking of the original proposal, made during my premiership. Since then there has been substantial change.

    'promoted by your buddies' - are you feeling unpopular?


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    The proposal has been made more than once.

    Bar not being able to see who voted for who, I wonder how many of your colleagues were thinking "ray is my colleague and infallible"

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The proposal has been made more than once.

    Bar not being able to see who voted for who, I wonder how many of your colleagues were thinking "ray is my colleague and infallible"

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    Indeed.

    I think my colleagues know better than anyone just how fallible I am. In fact I suspect a lost a vote or two from people who didn't want me to leave party politics. But that's all just speculation, in the end a few people ran and I won - I don't think I was undeserving of that victory - though I'd be unsurprised and unperturbed if you disagreed. :laugh:
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Indeed.

    I think my colleagues know better than anyone just how fallible I am. In fact I suspect a lost a vote or two from people who didn't want me to leave party politics. But that's all just speculation, in the end a few people ran and I won - I don't think I was undeserving of that victory - though I'd be unsurprised and unperturbed if you disagreed. :laugh:
    NOBODY RAN!!!!

    It was amazing the other day hearing the word stand rather than run with regards to the SU elections, it's worrying that it's a novelty.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    NOBODY RAN!!!!

    It was amazing the other day hearing the word stand rather than run with regards to the SU elections, it's worrying that it's a novelty.

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    A mere slip of the tongue, I apologise.
 
 
 
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