What are your thoughts on disability discrimination?

People where taught to respect the rights of people with different skin colors, religion and sexuality for the past 20 years but discrimination still happens so you would be wrong there.

No wants to hide in fear due to prejudice but you need to be a realist, grow a thicker skin and realize there is always going to be those who don't want to adjust their ways to incorporate you as a person.

What I find puzzling is you say the following:

" I am a high functioning Autistic and also have ADHD and don't want to hide in fear in a so-called "disability zone".
And then you say.
"An Autistic person can not avoid bright light, loud sounds etc when in public they will always be there"

Then how about this:

"in workplaces there should be suitable adjustments made for disabled people".
And then you say:
"the person should have coping strategies".

There is a lot of contradiction here. Perhaps you where struggling to get your words the right way round. I think I should dismiss this because I suffer from similar communication problems.

It doesn't matter what laws the Government brings in to try and create progress from the base of affirmative action. Businesses will simply restructure and avoid the equality act 2010 by legal loop holes.

I actually find all this legislation a hindrance to finding employment and often give employers the information they need to employ me while at the same time avoiding their responsibilities to make adjustments for my employment.

Its like the min-wage. It takes the lower rungs off the job ladder for less able people.

You've made a lot of valid points which I do support but I am afraid the rest of the world isn't making adaptations for disabled people. They see us as useless eaters, expendable containers etc etc.

If disabled people are to get ahead we need to start enabling ourselves though mutual collaboration and build communities which we own that enable us to then go onto do bigger and better things.

This means we need to literally own the land and buildings and nothing should be owned by Government because if it is you can bet that Government will liquidate public assets in times of austerity. And they'll hit the disabled first as they always do.

We live in a Capitalist economy. The whole structure of the economy is set against us. If we are to bare fruit and increase our production as a social class we need to first build the infrastructure that will allow us to do it.

Government laws won't work and public infrastructure has been destroyed with a simple pen stroke. Remploy is the best example. This is why we need to build our own communities, our own factories and our own "DISABILITY FRIENDLY ZONES".

Let me give you an example of one of my experiences when I was in girl guides. I got refused on a camping trip because the guider thought I won't be able to cope on my own due to various difficulties with my Autism communication being a major one. The guider gave everyone else a letter except me and told my dad it won't be a good idea for me to come. Another experience with the same guider with a theme park trip she gave letters to everyone else except myself because she thought I won't be able to cope with rides. I have bloody been to Alton towers and similar parks and also had been on various overnight trips with school. I had assumptions made about myself without actually being asked if I could handle it.

Being an impaired person myself, I can say that fortunately I haven’t experienced this too many times, but I have been on the receiving end. In school, they almost stopped me from being allowed to take swimming lessons with my class even though I would have been fully capable. I fought my case and was allowed but it wasn’t fair that they tried to stop me when I would have been fine.

Discrimination shouldn’t exist, and there is certainly no justifying it - discrimination is discrimination, whether you attempt to justify it or not, and it’s disgusting.

I assume they were responding to official advice on the matter, if in a rather heavy handed way? (or the potential of being sued)


To take but an example, say someone with a degenerative muscle wasting disease (or some such) applies for a job involving heavy lifting are you saying the company has no grounds on which to tell them to go away?
Discrimination might be 'disgusting' in many cases but it is also a fact of life as well no? People being either capable or incapable of what is being asked of them.

In response to your second point - people who are disabled know their limits, so your example of someone with degenerative muscle wasting disease applying for a job involving heavy lifting is very unlikely to ever happen. I would never apply to a job involving a lot of phone calls that are important, or a job in which I would need to be able to hear well, because I know that kind of job is not suitable for me. Realistically, yes sometimes a person with a disability will bite off more than they can chew, and need to be told that a job is not suitable for them, but this is very very rare. So no, discrimination is not a fact of life, people who are impaired or disabled should be treated the same as everybody else.

The discrimination I was talking about more was the harsh comments and horrible words that are thrown towards people with disabilities. I wear hearing aids and I've been told at times that they look silly, or that I'm faking being deaf and I'm doing it all for attention. Or even worse, people wouldn't let me sit with them or play with them as a child because I wore them - the fact that children are behaving like that sheds a little light on how parents behave - how else would they know to refuse to accept a disabled person into the group? I think the main thing is that a lot of comments and discrimination is completely unnecessary and hurtful, and some people do need to take a look at the damage they're doing, and change their ways.