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    (Original post by Oblivion99)
    HAHAHAHAHA this is utter :dolphin::dolphin::dolphin::dolphin::dolphin::dolphin::dolphin::dolphin:. Im not Muslim, but if you look back at the politics of Arabia and seen the role of women in work? Also the first women, whom was muslim, opened an university. The hardest was Christianity, where in the 1900's women couldnt vote and were forced under domestic activity.
    What university is this? I'm kinda curious now lol

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    (Original post by HAnwar)
    What religion forbids it?
    Waiting for an answer.
    islam
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    Umm... I'm pretty sure Muslim women are allowed to work.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Women can work from home e.g. writing novels, knitting jumpers, growing cannabis etc.
    Lol
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    (Original post by The Genghis Khan)
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    No Islam doesn't. Plain stupid islamophobia in action again. Did you know a Jewish school is London banned mothers from picking up there kids from school? Probably not because it wasn't an Islamic school so the media wouldn't bounce on the story.
    Also one of the first universities created was created by a Muslim woman.
    Educate yourself before you start throwing around wild accusations
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    (Original post by qwertyuipdoe)
    No Islam doesn't. Plain stupid islamophobia in action again. Did you know a Jewish school is London banned mothers from picking up there kids from school? Probably not because it wasn't an Islamic school so the media wouldn't bounce on the story.
    Also one of the first universities created was created by a Muslim woman.
    Educate yourself before you start throwing around wild accusations
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    To all of you asking for an example of a religion that doesn't allow women to work, I have invented a new religion called doleism where it is effortish(forbidden) for any follower to work.
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    If they're unfit for work then yes, otherwise no. JSA is contingent upon looking for work, just as it should be. Housing benefit is a trickier matter :beard:
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    The wahhabist religion forbids women from working, it even forbids them from driving. Their strict conservative wahhabists laws can prosecute the woman or her family in sharia courts , should these rules be broken.

    So the point is should we expect people to break the law to work or refuse then any financial help if they choose not to break those laws?
    Wahhabist laws do not apply in the UK. That argument is irrelevant.
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    (Original post by The Genghis Khan)
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Size:  200.4 KBAlso ignore everything else I said, shows how unstable your argument is. Not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims. Shows how easy you are to manipulate by the media and whatever other bs they are feeding you. The fact that Islam is a religion based on peace shows how far terrorist groups like Isis are from Islam and people like you linking Islam to terrorism are creating fear for yourself
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    (Original post by Ambitious1999)
    There are a lot of cultures and religions where women are not allowed to work as its untraditional and against the religious or cultural laws.
    If that's the case then should they be allowed income support benefit to cover living expenses because they can't work? Ok they'd have to prove their religion forbids them from working and they'd be break in the laws of their religion if they did work. After all freedom to follow a religion is a human right. What are your thoughts?
    To be controversial, I am going to answer and say yes, to an extent. If we had for example a negative income tax based solely of the individuals earnings, it would be quite possible for a woman, should she feel her religion requires this of her, to stay at home and receive supplementary money from the state. Although this money would not be given to her because she is a special case, but rather would be money that all citizens would get should they earn less than a set amount. But we don't have a negative income tax, so this wont happen.
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    (Original post by AlwaysWatching)
    Wahhabist laws do not apply in the UK. That argument is irrelevant.
    Neither is Wahhabism are religion.
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    (Original post by morgan8002)
    To all of you asking for an example of a religion that doesn't allow women to work, I have invented a new religion called doleism where it is effortish(forbidden) for any follower to work.
    Except they still have to satisgy the criteria for the benefit to the DWP or they get nothing. Good luck with that.
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    (Original post by qwertyuipdoe)
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    1) There are more non-Muslims on the planet than Muslims. The Non Muslim countries have better weapons and equipment. So your meme isn't realistic or logical.
    2) Islam justifies war in certain circumstances. There are set conditions (although those conditions are debated) on when violence can be used.
    3) Muhammed was a warlord. You would know this if you have ever read the Qur'an.

    So therefore, Islam is a violent religion. That doesn't mean all Muslims are violent. Islam, however, is violent.

    Please think and use research, like you have advised other people to, before posting nonsensical memes.
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    nope - or else we could all claim to be that religion and the country would be screwed economically. you can't read somebody's mind to prove that they have a particular religion.
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    Definitely not. Benefits should be reserved for those in true need - if you believe you shouldn't work because of a religious belief then you should ensure you can afford not to work. It's as simple as that.
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    To be controversial, I am going to answer and say yes, to an extent. If we had for example a negative income tax based solely of the individuals earnings, it would be quite possible for a woman, should she feel her religion requires this of her, to stay at home and receive supplementary money from the state. Although this money would not be given to her because she is a special case, but rather would be money that all citizens would get should they earn less than a set amount. But we don't have a negative income tax, so this wont happen.
    This sounds a lot like the Green Party's plan for mandatory free £7k to everyone...

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    (Original post by carlskep)
    From one of your favourite sources:

    https://islamqa.info/en/106815

    The basic principle is that a woman should remain at home, and not go out except for necessary purposes. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance”

    [al-Ahzaab 33:33].

    Although this is addressed to the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), it also applies to the believing women. It is only addressed to the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) because of their honour and status with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and because they are examples for the believing women.

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Woman is ‘awrah, and if she goes out, the shaytaan raises his hopes (of misguiding her). She is never closer to Allaah than when she stays in her house.” Narrated by Ibn Hibbaan and Ibn Khuzaymah; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Shaheehah, no. 2688.

    And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said concerning a woman’s prayer in the mosque: “Their houses are better for them.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (567) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
    It's quite funny that you didn't read the whole thing or maybe you did but decided to not complete what you've just copied from the link that you've provided,
    If you read the second part it says,

    Secondly:
    It is permissible for a woman to go out of her house for work, but that is subject to certain conditions.
    If they are met, it is permissible for her to go out. They are:
    - That she needs to work in order to acquire the money she needs, as in your case.
    - The work should be suited to the nature of woman, such as medicine, nursing, teaching, sewing, and so on.
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    (Original post by 999tigger)
    Except they still have to satisgy the criteria for the benefit to the DWP or they get nothing. Good luck with that.
    I think you mean satisfy. Yes, some sacrifices have to be made for the sake of religion.
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    (Original post by morgan8002)
    I think you mean satisfy. Yes, some sacrifices have to be made for the sake of religion.
    Who is sacrificing what? You mean the claimant sacrifices part of their made up religious freedom so they cna get benefits? Not seeing the DWP sacrificing anything. Comply with the or dont get your benefits. Its not rocket science..
 
 
 
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