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    (Original post by LibertyMan)
    I wouldn't. Autists are actually extremely valuable in that they give an alternative perspective to life. They bring up things casual scum don't even comprehend in their vain existence. And they're also very good at maths and logic, let's not forget.
    Autistic people are very varied. Very occasionally you get a 'savant' but you also get plenty of people who are severely disabled and never able to talk, toilet etc plus a huge range of people in the middle.

    Either way it would really be for autistic people to decide and the important factor would be whether their lives would be better or worse for it, not whether or not it was good for me. I would guess life is more difficult if you are an autistic person than if you are not but that wouldn't necessarily make people want to significantly change who they are. Plenty of autistic people lead happy and full lives and do everything anyone else does.
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    I can help my child through various means, and I would rather put the decision to her/him. For me to make the decision as a way of "improving" my kid is disgraceful
    I know right, how dare anyone try to help a kid struggling with a neurodevelopmental disease. Disgusting. What next, vaccines? Antibiotics? We can't play God!!!1!!
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    I can help my child through various means, and I would rather put the decision to her/him. For me to make the decision as a way of "improving" my kid is disgraceful
    But the question says its your decision, not your child's. It would be improving their quality of life, I don't see anything wrong with supporting that.
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    (Original post by mariapops)
    I know right, how dare anyone try to help a kid struggling with a neurodevelopmental disease. Disgusting. What next, vaccines? Antibiotics? We can't play God!!!1!!
    Vaccines and antibiotics are different to pressing a button or clicking your fingers. If you judge people who are autistic as some inferior group then that says a lot about you
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    My perspective on this as an autistic (with asperges too).

    No.

    Whilst I suck at social skills and never have had/will have a gf because... I suck at that too.

    There are so many advantages of being autistic. We see life differently to others. Work wise I gradually shifted into marketing without knowing it and now my world consists of targeting and Facebook Ads. Being autistic is AWESOME for this because I naturally study people my whole life and now I know what people want, what people who want x search for to get y and what A, B, and C targets match those people. So making money becomes easy. The only thing you can't buy is love and health. Working hard made me exercise just to chill out so that is health sorted. Just love to go...

    Now if I didn't care about money but cared about science I might be the guy who cured cancer. Some other autistic person might do so. Why would you get rid of that?
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    I would assume so. Autism shouldn't define who you are and I doubt many people would say they "prefer" to remain autistic given the choice. People on the spectrum have different attitudes to it but, like every other disease/disorder it would be preferable if we didn't have it.

    So, if you mean flick a switch and it goes. Great. If you mean exterminating everyone on the spectrum, eh, no.
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    (Original post by shaafay)
    Nah. I may be wrong, but I don't think it's too much fun for the autistic individual in question...
    By the way, if I come across as a braggart, please bear in mind that it's not intended. Everyone has unique quirks and it's these quirks that keep society going. We should all be proud of who we are.

    Autism (Aspergers in my case) is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me. If it was a choice between being aspergic and being crippled for life or not being aspergic, I'd still choose to stick with aspergers. Aspergers has done some pretty weird things to my brain, and consequently I've had to endure a lot of torment because of it. Both from bullies and my own heightened anxiety. People bully what they don't understand, and a scrawny little girl with zero social skills was easy pickings. However, it's also given me a completely unique view of life, a brain which is likened more to a CPU than a human brain (none of the preprogrammed social clutter bogging it down), a strange and rather dangerous obsession with the quantum world and the ability to separate emotions from logic, which is pretty darn useful for decision making.

    I can't really describe it, it's like being an alien of sorts. I think in a completely different way to neurotypicals and I find them both fascinating and totally incomprehensible. It's the unconscious things like body language that separate me from them the most. I can read it and simulate it, but why people don't say things in words I will never understand.

    Imagine living in two worlds at once. You know, one inside your head and the everyday world around us. It's sort of like that. For me that inner world is my very own scaled up quantum world. So I can pretty much "see" things like chemical reactions in it. I can visualise entire free radical chain reactions, virtual particles popping into and out of existence in vacuums and nuclear decays occuring, things like that. It's even brought me the love of my life: hydrogen peroxide molecules. Obviously its not perfect and I do get things wrong, but it's never dropped below a 90% sucess rate. Don't get the wrong idea here though, I have no talent or even the slightest scrap of skill in anything else. Single track minds are only really good for one thing. I've been described by my old English teacher as the worst student she'd ever had.

    When I say my brain's more like a CPU than a human brain I'm not joking. I don't think subjectively at all, as far as I'm aware. It's always just cold hard facts and no emotional fog, I still experience emotion of course but it's like it's been paused whenever I'm thinking. Other kids actually used to ask my one friend if I had a soul and if I was even human because they all picked up on it. I'm quite proud of that now, it's like my own identifier, the inhuman human, sort of.

    In short, aspergers has made me the "inhuman human," atom hugging nutcase who's post you're currently reading. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Neither should anyone else trade their faculties away. It's our faculties/quirks which define who we are. You should be proud of every single one of them.
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    Vaccines and antibiotics are different to pressing a button or clicking your fingers. If you judge people who are autistic as some inferior group then that says a lot about you
    How are they different? Antibiotics and vaccines are both ways of 'improving' your child. Isn't that disgraceful to you? Surely it would be playing God if you were to interfere like that?

    Nobody said autistic people are inferior.
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    (Original post by Tootles)
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    Heh, out of interest do you like jokes even if you don't get them at first? I quite appreciate them, but that might just be me.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    I would assume so. Autism shouldn't define who you are and I doubt many people would say they "prefer" to remain autistic given the choice. People on the spectrum have different attitudes to it but, like every other disease/disorder it would be preferable if we didn't have it.

    So, if you mean flick a switch and it goes. Great. If you mean exterminating everyone on the spectrum, eh, no.
    Flicking that switch would mean getting rid of every significant advancement humanity has ever made.

    Without his autism Einstein wouldn't have come up with his theory of general relativity, a theory which is one of the two pillars of all modern science an hence the entire modern world. Without his autism Newton wouldn't have formulated his laws of motion, without which we can kiss goodbye to all of the discoveries which depended on his laws. So no more technology, no more modern medicine, no more classical physics, etc. Basically, no more modern world.

    These are just two of an innumerable number of such people who've all had autism. Autism coupled with free speech has been the driver of progress throughout humanity's history. Without autism there'd have been no enlightenment period and we'd all be living in the dark ages. Autism is essential for our continued prosperity, just as neurotypicals are for our continued survival.

    Neurotypicals depend on the autistic for prosperity and scientific advancement, but equally autistic people depend on neurotypicals to keep society going smoothly, which in turn enables the progress to happen. Removing either group would result in the total collapse of society.
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    Just to clarify, I didn't mean getting rid of autistic people, but curing all autistic symptoms that are currently present in people and in future generations.
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    Heh, out of interest do you like jokes even if you don't get them at first? I quite appreciate them, but that might just be me.
    Haha. Yes, I like jokes, and have a sense of humour. I only occasionally have a hard time knowing the difference at certain points when it could be taken as a serious statement or question in context. As little as this makes sense, I'm better at knowing in person.

    But yes, I do jokes. As a writer I often use humour in my work.
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    (Original post by Omen96)
    Vaccines and antibiotics are different to pressing a button or clicking your fingers. If you judge people who are autistic as some inferior group then that says a lot about you
    When did I say anyone autistic is inferior? Do you actually realise how debilitating autism can be? I doubt you even know anyone on the spectrum, like I said, my own sister has autism and I don't expect you to understand if you've never met someone with autism who's life is made difficult by the fact they can't even talk or go to the toilet by themselves. I never would think she is inferior for a second but you don't even realise how hard things are for her so I don't understand why people are telling me I think people with autism are inferior? Autism affects people in different ways and if my sister was less severely affected and she struggled less, I would think difficult but I'm not going to apologise for saying that I wish my little sister didn't have to put up with thi struggle. How would you feel if you couldn't talk or feed yourself? You wouldn't be saying the same thing then. This thread is pointless anyway because there isn't even comprehensive treatment for autism. I don't know how many times I have to at this but it is a spectrum so not everyone with autism is the verbal, good at maths with a few quirks like people seem to think, some people will never able to talk!
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    (Original post by Tootles)
    Haha. Yes, I like jokes, and have a sense of humour. I only occasionally have a hard time knowing the difference at certain points when it could be taken as a serious statement or question in context. As little as this makes sense, I'm better at knowing in person.

    But yes, I do jokes. As a writer I often use humour in my work.
    I should have said: on internet forums (as that's where tone is harder to read).
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    I should have said: on internet forums (as that's where tone is harder to read).
    Grr.
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    Ask someone with autism and see what they think.
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    (Original post by Tootles)
    Grr.
    Roflcopter???
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    It is funny how people see us as an inferior "race" of humans yet they rely on us for so many technological and sociological advancements that allow them to live xD
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    You're wrong. As is the OP.

    If people could stop making sweeping statements, that'd be great.
    Bae what u sayin
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    (Original post by Proxenus)
    Bae what u sayin
    I don't know what you're talking about, but if that's an attempt at flirting I'm really not interested.
 
 
 
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