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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    They fought because it was clear what they were fighting for/against. They had something to believe in, they had a homeland that was wealthy, a system that worked and that they were content with; they wanted to preserve their way of life and they knew exactly how to do it.

    The same cannot be said for Syria. It's a mess of a civil war. It's been over 4 years - those who initially tried to fight have become disillusioned and frankly, don't see the point anymore. Why shouldn't they flee if there's no incentive to fight, and absolutely no chance of winning?
    Not true; the Polish nationalist resistance fought the Nazis, but they knew that the alternative was Communist rule. The Finns fought off the Russians, but were forced to help the Nazis.

    The Chinese didn't have a wealthy homeland, nor a system that they were content with (think of the revolutionary war after WWII)
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    Who said they'll leave on their own?
    Europeans are going to kick them out of Europe.
    Thats never gonna happen
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    Who said they'll leave on their own?
    Europeans are going to kick them out of Europe.
    I'd like to, but it won't happen.
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    (Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob)
    Some of these men have already had their families killed. Others leave in the hopes they can get them over here after they've settled, they'll probably leave their family with an elder of some sort (grandparents) who may have actively encouraged it due to desperate circumstances.

    Some are just cowards, thieves, single men who had no family to begin with, but let's not paint everyone with the same brush, a war zone is a war zone, it's not a very nice place to live in.
    I would have agreed to a plan only admitting women and children, but when you see that 80% of "refugees" are young men and that many in fact come from Algeria or Pakistan, you know that there is a problem.

    (Original post by lolatmaths)
    You're trolling right? How can one be so simple minded.

    You obviously dont have knowledge of the conflicts that are occurring in the region under question, i recommend you get some background information instead of believing this fallacy that simpletons think is true.
    I really dislike when people tell that "you should make your research" and don't provide any supportive information.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    You would let your family behind like these brave young men?
    https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/con...y-of-refugees/
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    (Original post by Josb)
    I'd like to, but it won't happen.
    Oh trust me on that.. Wars are going to erupt. (Hopefully not)
    But it is clear.. The European public wont tolerate the Muslims anymore. And Muslims will not stand still without doing anything about it. It is going to be bloody.
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    Unlucky Germany taxpayers
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    Who said they'll leave on their own?
    Europeans are going to kick them out of Europe.
    I wish they would indeed kick your brothers from Europe. But Merkel will not have the guts to do so.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    I really dislike when people tell that "you should make your research" and don't provide any supportive information.
    I really dislike 27 year olds coming on student rooms and start threads like 'the big penis megathread'. Bit sad really.

    The issue is far too complex for me to explain on the forum, i actually have things to do unlike you, perhaps if we leave the EU we can send the low skilled workers like you back to your own country
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    (Original post by lolatmaths)
    I really dislike 27 year olds coming on student rooms and start threads like 'the big penis megathread'. Bit sad really.
    I was trolling in the chat. I don't see how it is relevant to this discussion.

    (Original post by lolatmaths)
    The issue is far too complex for me to explain on the forum, i actually have things to do unlike you, perhaps if we leave the EU we can send the low skilled workers like you back to your own country
    Youngmetro?

    Another very good argument from you. I think that if you have so much to do in your meaningful life, you shouldn't comment on TSR.
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    Oh trust me on that.. Wars are going to erupt. (Hopefully not)
    But it is clear.. The European public wont tolerate the Muslims anymore. And Muslims will not stand still without doing anything about it. It is going to be bloody.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    Youngmetro?

    Another very good argument from you. I think that if you have so much to do in your meaningful life, you shouldn't comment on TSR.
    I just saw the thread where you thought it was a good idea to share with everyone that you earned a very low salary. And you're avoiding the point, we both know it isnt simply the case of 'let them fight for their country'
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    (Original post by slaven)
    Squad goals innit?
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    (Original post by lolatmaths)
    I just saw the thread where you thought it was a good idea to share with everyone that you earned a very low salary. And you're avoiding the point, we both know it isnt simply the case of 'let them fight for their country'
    "A very low salary" :lol: :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Josb)
    "A very low salary" :lol: :rolleyes:
    Do share with us how much you earn, or are you too embarrassed to do so?
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    None of these points relies on facts. They quote a number from the UNCHR for refugees worldwide and a study about shipwrecks in the Baltic Sea to compare it with a 10 mile transit between Turkey and Lesbos Island... Seriously?
    It also says that women are in majority in the refugee camps near Syria. So why men can't stay there with them?
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    (Original post by AhmedMA99)
    Squad goals innit?
    No, that is why we would not like muslims in our countries. Prophet Muhamed was a mass murder and pedophile. Why would we import his fan club?
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    (Original post by lolatmaths)
    Do share with us how much you earn, or are you too embarrassed to do so?
    £28K (in the north). That's £6,000 above the median wage.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    £28K (in the north). That's £6,000 above the median wage.
    As i said, low salary (esp for a 27 year old who boasts about his degree)

    You can live perfectly well in France, the migrants have a better claim to this country than you.

    Thats not the point, its ridiculous to not accept migrants because 'they're cowards who can stay and fight for their country'
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    (Original post by slaven)
    No, that is why we would not like muslims in our countries. Prophet Muhamed was a mass murder and pedophile. Why would we import his fan club?
    "Mass murderer and pedophile" ? REALLY? Prophet Mohammed PBUH was kicked out of his hometown Mecca and his people were murdered and tortured. He then had to leave Mecca due to that. Years later when he came back to Mecca,
    the Prophet entered Mecca almost unopposed. The city which had treated him so cruelly, driven him and his faithful band for refuge among strangers, the city which had sworn his life and the lives of his devoted adherents, now lay at his mercy. His old persecutors were now completely at his feet. The Prophet entered Mecca on his favorite camel Al Kaswa, having Usama Ibn Zaid sitting behind him. On his way he recited Surah Al-Fat-h (Victory), the first verses of which may be interpreted thus: Verily We have given you (0 Muhammad) a manifest victory. That Allah may forgive you your sins of the past and future, and complete His Favor on you, and guide you on the Straight Path; and that Allah may help you with strong help. Surah 48: 1-3
    The Muslim army entered the city unpretentiously and peacefully. No house was robbed, no man or woman was insulted. The Prophet granted a general amnesty to the entire population of Mecca. Only four criminals, whom justice condemned, were proscribed. He did however, order the destruction of all idols and pagan images of worship, upon which three hundred and fifty idols which were in the Sacred House of Kaba were thrown down. The Prophet himself destroyed a wooden pigeon hung from the roof and regarded as one of the deities of the Quraish. During the downfall of the images and idols he was heard to cry aloud: "Allah is great. Truth has come and falsehood has vanished; verily falsehood is fleeting." The old idolaters observed thoughtfully the destruction of their gods which were utterly powerless.
    After the Prophet had abolished these pagan idols and every pagan rite, he delivered a sermon to the assembled people. He dwelt upon the natural brotherhood of man in the words of the Qur'an: 0 Mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily the most honorable of you in the Sight of Allah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa i.e. one of hte Muttaqun i.e. pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden), and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained). Verily Allah is All-Knowing, AllAware. Surah 49: 13
 
 
 
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