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    (Original post by ~Tara~)
    Fairly sure that has to do with society's comfort level more than anything else. Transgender is lumped together with sexual orientation all the time even though being transgender is nothing to do with sexual preferences.
    'Fairly sure'? So your personal opinion differs from what scientific consensus considers 'sexual orientation', therefore you have decided you will redefine scientific labels?

    Transgendered people are not 'lumped together' with sexual orientation, except by ignorant people who don't know anything about the subject. Everyone who is just a little bit educated knows that gender identity is not the same thing as sexual orientation.


    (Original post by ~Tara~)
    There is increasing research to say that it is a sexual preference/orientation.
    Source?


    (Original post by ~Tara~)
    People jump on it because they are scared this means a leap to decriminalising child sexual abuse.
    I'm pretty sure that nobody other than Ted Cruz-leaning evangelical rednecks with racist grandmas in the deep south worry about that.


    (Original post by ~Tara~)
    They should decriminalise pedophilia but obviously not child sexual abuse.
    Pedophilia is not criminalized though.



    (Original post by ~Tara~)

    You can have a sexual preference and not act on it. I'm straight but I've had fantasies about many genders. And before anyone jumps in with the gay thing.. That is completely different. When you are a pedophile, you know that any level of relationship would be damaging to the child. Children are aware when the people around them are having sexual thoughts about them. They can sense it. It's confusing and scary to them. Acting on those thoughts even in an "innocent" way still translates to the child. You can tell when someone is innocently touching your arm and when someone is touching it inappropriately. It sets alarm bells off. Many pedophiles know this and choose not to act. Their impulse centre works as it should and they don't have any other traits that would override impulse control.
    Well yes, anyone knows that. Essentially, someone who sexually abuses a child is a rapist, it is no different than a man being attracted to a woman and yet not pulling her into a dark alley and raping her. Unfortunately children are easier target to people who are sexually attracted to children, as they can bribed into not telling anyone about it etc. Really, the reason it's unacceptable to rape a child is the same reason it is unacceptable to rape an adult.
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    (Original post by ElaArslan)
    I don't know pedophilia much as something that could be fixed. I've always assumed it's their sexual preference which they cannot help hut obviously, coming to think about it, other factors could be affecting it like you said trauma. These tabloids are making moral panics about 'ex-paedophiles', about how they're in our community etc etc. Would you feel comfortable about and ex-paedophile living among your community, where there are school children?
    Well, pedophiles can't help being attracted to children but they can control their impulsive and actions. Pedophilia is an attraction, not an action. Child molestation, rape, and watching child porn are actions. Those can be stopped and punished.

    A pedophile will always be a pedophile. Would I be tolerant of the existence of ex-child molesters, and child rapists living in my community? As long as they don't get chummy with any children in the neighborhood, sure.
    If the sex offender/rapist can keep their hands to themselves and have no contact, even online with children then no harm. I would not feel comfortable knowing that my next neighborhood raped, molested, and/or watched child porn though. In fact, I think I almost got in deep trouble with a sex offender when I was kid at candy shop. He even appeared on the news.
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    (Original post by IAmNero)
    Not by society. If you try to explain that it is, you seem to be called a sympathiser

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    That's irrelevant to the question though. This is not a matter of opinions to share OP, it is considered a disorder, therefore it has diagnostic criteria. Clinical psychologists and other mental health professionals therefore having the ability to diagnose someone with pedophilia.

    There are also numerous implicit and explicit tests for pedophilia. IAT, penile plethysmography amongst others.


    So yes. It is diagnosable.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    We live in world where urges that are "natural" in the animal world are abhorrent amongst humans. Society is geared towards discouraging such urges, but for some people this hasn't worked. These people need support, yet at the same time punishment for acting on this urges must be strict.

    Attraction to a child who has not yet started puberty is not natural, simply because how will it ever be adaptive? It can physically harm a young girl who is not yet developed enough, and will lead to no chance of conception?

    It's not "societal" it's simply evolutionary. Yes, our ancestors have married 14 year olds, but they were pubescent.
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    (Original post by ElaArslan)
    I was watching a documentary about a 'hospital' for old men who were in jail for pedophilia/molesting etc. It was compulsory for them to be 'warehoused' but they couldn't be forced to be treated. However only 13 out of hundreds of patients have managed to leave through the therapy programme they have there. Does that show that it's not actually a mental illness?
    Why would that show it to not be a mental illness? Many mental I disorders have a life long diagnosis?
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    (Original post by Twinpeaks)
    Attraction to a child who has not yet started puberty is not natural, simply because how will it ever be adaptive? It can physically harm a young girl who is not yet developed enough, and will lead to no chance of conception?

    It's not "societal" it's simply evolutionary. Yes, our ancestors have married 14 year olds, but they were pubescent.
    True, but our biological evolution is not a perfect system. Attraction is present in the form of a spectrum, not absolutes. After all, are there really any biological advantages to attraction to women too old to give birth?
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    True, but our biological evolution is not a perfect system. Attraction is present in the form of a spectrum, not absolutes. After all, are there really any biological advantages to attraction to women too old to give birth?
    That's an interesting point actually. I'd say there are maybe advantages of continued affection for maturer people?

    Evo- psychological principles of love broadly posit that it's purpose is to encourage long term, enduring pair bonding, which is adaptive in sharing responsibility and resources for raising children. Not just conceiving children.
    So I'd say that considering that children are considered dependent and resource-taking until 18, it's probably still important to have continued attraction even if you're no longer able to reproduce children. I mean if the woman is no longer attractive when she is no longer fertile, then the man would be more likely to leave and find another younger partner when there's still that growing adolescent to support. In other words, there might not be a new baby on the horizon, but there might be a maturer one who still needs parental care. Love and continued attraction maybe ensures that couples stay together?

    But to be honest, how much sway does evo-psychology even hold today. I mean I know attraction is meant to be innate, but the difference in society's trends of what is considered attractive from the 90s to now is outstanding. So how can attraction even be that evolutionary if we are so fickle minded.

    Sorry I went off on a tangent there.
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    Yep...sit people down to CBBC and measure the blood flow to their sexual organs.
 
 
 
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