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A few things that have happened while everyone has been focusing on that gorilla watch

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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    There are non-Muslims who invent neologisms like "the religion of peace", and who avoid the fact that Islamist terrorists groups are Islamic at all, thus failing to highlight a significant factor in Islamic extremism (Islam).
    Right. So you're saying Islam is inherently extremist? If that is the case why are a majority of Islamic scholars against extremist organisations such as ISIS? Have those scholars not studied enough?
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    Very naive.
    Fabulous argument.
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    (Original post by Carpe Diem Jay)
    Right. So you're saying Islam is inherently extremist? If that is the case why are a majority of Islamic scholars against extremist organisations such as ISIS? Have those scholars not studied enough?
    They are sane enough not to follow the extreme elements of the Qu'ran and the Hadiths. They realise that cutting off the fingers of non-believers and reigning fire on gays is probably a bit much.
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    What a peaceful religion.
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    Maybe the gorilla was Muslim too.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Fabulous argument.
    There are countless articles published by newspapers reporting things essentially as fact that turned out to be false. So implying that something must be true because a newspaper says skmething is "suspected" is just wrong.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    There are countless articles published by newspapers reporting things essentially as fact that turned out to be false. So implying that something must be true because a newspaper says skmething is "suspected" is just wrong.
    Didn't say it must be true, just saying it very probably is. I'm sure there are far, far more articles that turn out to be true, than those that don't.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Didn't say it must be true, just saying it very probably is. I'm sure there are far, far more articles that turn out to be true, than those that don't.
    Oh, okay. So they might be true.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Is this how desensitised some people have become to Islamic violence? Your emotional response to all this horrific s*** can be summed up with a smily rolling it's eyes?
    Don't get sanctimonious with me. Your agenda is evident to anyone who's familiar with your threads.

    :rolleyes:
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    I'm going to try my best to make the world a nicer place

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    I looked at the title and thought "finally someone with some common sense" but then I realised its just another hate thread...
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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    Don't get sanctimonious with me. Your agenda is evident to anyone who's familiar with your threads.

    :rolleyes:
    My agenda to bring light to a terrible force in the world?
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    (Original post by AshEntropy)
    I'm going to try my best to make the world a nicer place

    Pikachu looks high.

    (Original post by Nayzar)
    I looked at the title and thought "finally someone with some common sense" but then I realised its just another hate thread...
    I looked at the title and then looked at the OP's name and I was like: it's going to involve negative stories about Muslims.
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    (Original post by offhegoes)
    I clicked on one of those links at random. The word "suspected" appreared a number of times, yet you seem to be reporting it as fact?
    Mate on this forum a Muslim sneezing would be reported as an act of terror

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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    My agenda to bring light to a terrible force in the world?
    No, it's to perpetuate anti-Islamic/Muslim sentiments. We're all aware of the atrocities committed by Islamic terrorists around the world, but what you've done is collect a few links about incidents that are vaguely related to Islam, while ignoring the geopolitics, the role of cultural attitudes, etc to paint Islam in an especially bad-light. One could do the same with other religions, political ideologies, etc by focusing on them, and create the impression that the world is burning down due to some religion/ideology. It's quite a clever method of inciting hatred. Your fixation of Islam is motivated by a deeply irrational fear of Islam, which in turn leads you to see Islam in the news from a tunnel-vision perspective. What you and your Islamophobic friends have missed out on is that really there are actually three distinct phenomena that overlap:

    1) You have your grievance-based extremism which comes from anger about western wars in the middle east, support for Israel, police repression etc. Anger about those issues exists in every faith group in Europe but there's going to be more anger from Muslims given that they are the ones who are being directly affected by this.

    2) You have 'communal' or 'honour-based' violence. Anger about the Muhammad cartoons for instance, along with examples like sectarian killings, attacks on apostates or so-called blasphemers. Again this is not a faith-centred issue but a cultural one, non-Muslims do those things too.

    3) And finally you have actual ideologically-driven Salafi fanaticism of the sort that groups like ISIS or the Saudi clergy adhere to. For those sects there doesn't necessarily need to be any sort of grievance or offence to justify violence, terror is justified for its own sake. Ideological terror like this is mostly a Muslim problem, but there's also a similar but much smaller non-Muslim movement in the form of Neo-Nazism.ideology

    Each of these different terror threats exists across religious and ethnic boundaries, but in the Muslim community all three happen to come together at once and inter-connect with each other. You have a cultural group with a strong sense of communal or collective honour suffering from a variety of legitimate grievances and at the same time you have a violent ideology that can feed off of those sentiments. The differences between these tendencies are too subtle for the media and the public to really pick up, creating the impression that there is a single phenomenon of 'Islamic' terrorism.
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    They are sane enough not to follow the extreme elements of the Qu'ran and the Hadiths. They realise that cutting off the fingers of non-believers and reigning fire on gays is probably a bit much.
    Technically isn't this want you wanted? (Despite you not doing anything) Islam has reformed right?
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Sounds like you're trying to trivialise a fairly serious issue. Callous.
    Lmao you're relentless.
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    (Original post by Nidhoggr)
    Mate on this forum a Muslim sneezing would be reported as an act of terror

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    Who knows what powers those boogers hold lol
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    (Original post by Leanney)
    All very upsetting but the gorilla story was also upsetting.
    "Upsetting" because a child was spared a mauling?

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    (Original post by Dima-Blackburn)
    No, it's to perpetuate anti-Islamic/Muslim sentiments. We're all aware of the atrocities committed by Islamic terrorists around the world, but what you've done is collect a few links about incidents that are vaguely related to Islam, while ignoring the geopolitics, the role of cultural attitudes, etc to paint Islam in an especially bad-light. One could do the same with other religions
    OK, do it.
 
 
 
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