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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
    That's a whole another topic which requires another thread of its own.
    OK how about this - Are you comfortable with those people calling themselves Muslim? Do you believe they still have the right to label themselves Muslim?
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    Same, I use to listen to music while knowing that its haram
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    You're trying to fit 2 objects in a hole which was designed for one object. It's either Quran or Music. If you listen to Quran then music you're just wasting your time. The Quran will not be memorised, you will forget it the next day. Try it.
    wouldnt this apply to other activities like surfing the internet, procrastination, TSR, watching films, you know basically a lot of the entertainment you probably do
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    I've always been taught that it is haram to listen to Music but I do listen to Nasheeds. How about you?
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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
    Music is haram


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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
    Before i start, i would like to say i don't even know what AMA means, it'sjust this lad here told us not to do it, which caused me to do it.



    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...7#post65475757



    Ok, here we go. I know i'm going to have a lot of people disagree with me,the majority. But nonetheless, the truth must be spoken.



    Disclaimer: I'm not the 'best' Muslim out there, but i aspire to becomebetter. I don't have vast Islamic Knowledge.



    Inspired by the misguided views of certain people on the Ramadan thread.



    Last thing before i begin.

    I welcome anyone from any religion to question why i say what i said. Idon't have immense Islamic Knowledge, but i'll try to answer any question ascarefully and correctly as possible.





    Music is haram

    I know it's a bold statement but hear me out.

    There are 3 ayahs (verses) in the Quran which tackle the issue. You need tounderstand these ayahs are not to be followed as how you interpret it, but asto how the respected Islamic Scholars interpreted it. You would not try and diagnoseyourself with an illness based of what a book says and seek for Medicine tocure your self-diagnose illness. You would consult a Doctor. Would you not?There is an infinitely small possibility, that the way you diagnosed yourselfwas actually correct. Without prior medical knowledge it would be hard todetermine whether you’re ill or not. In that same way, you consult the interpretationof the Quran with a person with Islamic background. And to add to that all, youwill receive sins for twisting the words of Allah.



    If there are equal number of Islamic Scholars on both sides of the debate,this situation would require you as a follower to leave the thing all together.For the sake of this argument let’s assume two Islamic Scholars had conflictedviews on the matter of Music being halal. You would be required to leave Musicas whole and not touch it or in this case listen to it.



    So we now got the basic fundamentals down. I can move to the situation athand. Is Music Haram?

    According to the three ayah in the Quran it is. For those who wish tounderstand or know the ayahs , Google is your pathway.



    Listening to Music is sinful, due to it being a waste of time. We as Muslimwish to memorise the whole Quran from back to front. Many, Islamic Scholarssay:

    ''One who has Music in his brain, cannot memorise the Quran.''

    Two opposite cannot coexist with each other, is that not reasonablethinking?



    Music is the sound of Shaytan (devil), i two have become a victim of it. Ilistened to it for so many years, rap,grime,rock,kpop you name it. Even Celticmusic. I've done every genre back to front. And here i stand before you tellingyou it's haram. I'm not ashamed to admit my mistakes, I’m a human, my heartgets pulled in every direction. I'm ashamed of the fact that i knew it washaram yet i continued to listen to it.



    So, i advise any Muslims who think Music is halal, to abstain from it for thiscoming month. I shall also receive the rewards for influencing you ;p



    I never said those who listen to Music are going to hell. But it is sinful,for all i know you could be the best Muslim, kind, charitable, modest yet youronly flaw is that you listen to Music.



    1+1+1-1= does not equal a minus number. But in the month of Ramadan, the number of sins are multiplied so that might cause the downfall to your so far flawless record. Of good deeds...



    Just sleep on it, how hard would it be to stop listening to music for amonth.

    I'm trying to stop listening to it for the rest of my life, but change doesnot happen overnight, leave it for a month and see how hard it was without it.



    Oh, i nearly forgot .

    Ramadan Mubarak
    I think I've just found the male version of moi. Sometimes, I feel like I'm going to be a good Muslim and then I go ahead and forget about that like Astagfirullah what I am doing. Then I cry constantly and pray for Allah to forgive because I know for sure Allah may have chose me to be misguided and I can't bear it so I continue to repent until I realise I can never be satisfied because only I will know what Allah feels about me on Judgement Day. I feel Inshallah this time I am going to fully commit to becoming a good Muslim bc I am now realising a lot and Ramadan is the perfect time (Ramadan Mubarak to you too!).

    Also I agree, Music is haraam, people just like to justify it. Our beloved prophet (pbuh) said that there will come a time when Muslims will try to make music halal but it can't be done. For anyone trying to give it up, I recommend listening to songs with vocals only, they usually have "background music" that are made up of primarily voices so even though generally Maher Zain does create haraam content, listen to his vocals only music because his voice is so beautiful Mashallah. May Allah guide all of you Inshallah ♥

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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Thanks for a thorough and honest answer

    Do you think many Jews, Christians and Atheists would convert to Islam, if they were given the Quran to read, and there was less negativity surrounding Islam? Which branch of Islam (Sunni, Shi'a, etc.) would the average agnostic or Christian Westerner prefer, do you think?
    I don't know anything, i don't know if i'm going to be alive in 1 hr time.

    If i had to take a guess, ''if'' there was less negativity surrounding Islam i assume there would be more converts.
    The main misconception that people generally have about Islam is about Womens rights.

    A lot of people take comfort in numbers so i'll share one.
    Did you know? For every 1 male convert there are 4 females converts into Islam.

    Why would women be converting to a Religion which abuses their rights. I believe Women can become CEOs manage businesses do anything or even exceed males in Mental capacity.

    What Islam implies is that Allah created Males and Females different, hence the difference in name,sexual organs and so on. So why would there be two different genders in 1 species? They have different roles. Women have qualities which males don't possess and Males have some which females don't. On average Males are stronger than females. Hence why they used to do manual labour. And Women, are better at bringing up Children. Both are capable of doing what the other is doing, but it's easier for the average male or female to do what their made to do.Now in this day and age females due to how history secluded them and opressed them they see doing chores and bringing up children as a weakness.

    As a man i would love for me to work for my wife, it would give me the satisfaction of helping my family as a whole. A family is a unit, and each part of unit has different roles.

    Thank you for reading this far, don't mind the spelling errors.
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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
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    Is gintama any good?
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    (Original post by ihatePE)
    wouldnt this apply to other activities like surfing the internet, procrastination, TSR, watching films, you know basically a lot of the entertainment you probably do
    You're getting the hang of it, anything in the world which wastes your time from your religion is seen as haram by certain Islamic Scholars. I do watch TV, i lied i don't watch TV. I watch movies on Putlocker and what not, i watch Anime, I come on the TSR forum once in a while.

    But we need to have balance, it was not mentioned in the Quran that Music is haram, so i try my best to stay away from Kpop, Grime, Pop and all those genres i used to listen to.

    I also play games, not an awful lot, but it distracts me so i'm planning to limit it to once every week.


    I'm not the best Muslim. But i'm trying to become better.
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    What do you think of the claims that Prophet Muhammed married Aishah when she was just 6 years old and consummated the marriage when she was just 9 years old?
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    (Original post by ihatePE)
    my results say otherwise...
    anyways cant people just listen to music, turn it off and then read the quran?
    They can't because it's haraam but that would just counteract each other. For example, if I killed someone (which is also haraam) then straight after I read Qur'an what would be the point. Like I've just ruined people's lives but I can still read the Qur'an and it all be ok? If people used that, nearly all Muslims then would sin openly and constantly like non-believers, ya know. Unless, you repent then you will be forgiven.

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    (Original post by *Alisha*)
    Same, I use to listen to music while knowing that its haram
    Nearly all of us did love. We would try to justify it like many people still argue about the hijab but we are human beings and shaitaan only wants to drag down as many of us he can with him

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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
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    Is the belly button of a man considered an awrah? I came across something like this online. Does this mean it is haram for me to play with my friends belly button?

    Ramadan Mubarak.
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    (Original post by Mrs.Grey)
    Nearly all of us did love. We would try to justify it like many people still argue about the hijab but we are human beings and shaitan only wants to drag down as many of us he can with him

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    One question which I really should be asking the thread maker, If you turned haram music into ''halal music'' would that actually be halal?
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    (Original post by EricPiphany)
    Is the belly button of a man considered an awrah? I came across something like this online. Does this mean it is haram for me to play with my friends belly button?

    Ramadan Mubarak.
    I think so however I'm not sure. However, why would one play with their friend's belly button in the first place?

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    (Original post by EricPiphany)
    Is the belly button of a man considered an awrah? I came across something like this online. Does this mean it is haram for me to play with my friends belly button?

    Ramadan Mubarak.
    ikr. I am curious.
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    (Original post by physicsmaths)
    ikr. I am curious.
    Lololololol.

    I was playing with my friends belly button and he said that I should lower my gaze.
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    (Original post by LastMinReviseGuy)
    I hate when people do this. Why do Muslims do this?

    I'm not talking about what Muslims do, it's about what Islam teaches.
    I'm talking about ISLAM NOT MUSLIMS.

    What other Muslims do is none of my concern, What Islam teaches is my concern. You understand?
    Well then I suggest you don't use the "1.6 billion Muslim" card anymore
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    (Original post by donner kebab)
    Your dp is soo haraam!! *gasp*

    https://islamqa.info/en/165186

    non-hijabi too! double haraam!
    You're not funny.
 
 
 
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