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    (Original post by jneill)
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    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...June-23rd.html: "more than three quarters do not believe the reforms proposed by Mr Cameron would ‘materially change the UK’s relationship with the EU"
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...June-23rd.html: "more than three quarters do not believe the reforms proposed by Mr Cameron would ‘materially change the UK’s relationship with the EU"
    "small investors" not small businesses.

    And most of them will be in the older demographic that was seriously worrying the Remain camp and led to Cameron's warnings about pensions, etc.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    "small investors" not small businesses. And most of them will be in the older demographic that was seriously worrying the Remain camp and led to Cameron's warnings about pensions, etc.
    Fair points, but the support/attitudes stand among the indicated demographic, and virtually every small business owner I've spoken to in the Midlands is for Brexit (big cities will of course be different). Small investors/businesses are the lifeblood of the UK, and feel hamstrung by EU regs
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Fair points, but the support/attitudes stand among the indicated demographic, and virtually every small business owner I've spoken to in the Midlands is for Brexit (big cities will of course be different). Small investors/businesses are the lifeblood of the UK, and feel hamstrung by EU regs
    I don't know if it's just me or others too, but I've grown sick and tired of both Bremain and Brexit just piling up some qualitative bullhonkey on the table. Unless something can be quantified it shouldn't be used in an argument.

    I realize you can't really quantify how badly the economy will go down immediately after Brexit, not to a high precision at least, with the accurate side of it being that the economy is near surefire to go down albeit with growth in the future. I also realize that you can't quantify the exact opinions of people, as there will be caveats and variability based on how you phrase questions.

    You can however quantify a poll or opinion tally, and saying that you've talked to businesses is worthless much like a lot of the arguments dumped out by both campaigns. Actually putting figures in is a lot nicer, such that "40% of the businesses I've talked too across the country agree with Brexit". A lot more goes in to this, such as not basing it on a certain region and being biased in just saying Brexit is backed across the country whereas it may just be in that aforementioned region. This isn't an attack on Brexit or Bremain, just merely the fact that both campaigns are spewing out invalid garbage that isn't entirely true and seems to be slightly biased to either side. This alongside newspapers such as The Express being biased and wanting Brexit; I know there are also biased newspapers toward Bremain, but I can't off the top of my head name them.

    You get my point; I wish I could vote, i'd vote to Remain, but sadly enough it's better to not have a bunch of misinformed 16-17 year olds voting. Call me some sort of ageist prick but I think that older folks shouldn't be allowed to vote either, as the outcome wont affect them *as much* as it would us. That's just another topic though.

    I'm basing a lot of this on what i've read about. Another point here is that i'm highly against Brexit because of how my parents seem to think of it. The only things they know about Brexit and Bremain is that if they stay in the EU, supposedly immigrants will come over from all over the damn place and take jobs and all that sort of stuff. They don't know that the economy will be unstable, or about loss of the single market seemingly enough, or about other stuff. All they know is that "Immigrants will come from Turkey next year"

    It's just so damn infuriating that a lot of people, wanting to remain or leave, don't fully understand the magnitude of the vote or anything along those lines.
 
 
 
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